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re: LSU a lucky team?
Posted on 8/19/08 at 1:30 am to inebr8ted tiger
Posted on 8/19/08 at 1:30 am to inebr8ted tiger
I don't think Miles going for FIVE fourth downs against the defending national champs - and making all five - was "luck." They WENT for it.
I don't think LSU running out all but 30 seconds of the entire last 8 minutes of the game by running Hester down UF's throats was "luck."
I don't think throwing a pass to the Auburn end zone with time to kick a field goal was "luck."
Byrd caught the ball with 4 seconds left.
If it would have been incomplete, the refs would have put time back on the clock (the stadium clock operator let the clock run down after the catch.)
I don't think it was "luck" that Chad Jones forced Bama QB Wilson to fumble near his own goal line.
Had Tyson Jacksn not had a late hit in the 2nd quarter, we might have increased our 17-3 lead instead of giving up a TD on the very next play.
It was lucky for Kentucky (and unlucky for LSU)
that Zinger didn't hold on to a TD pass right in his hands in the end zone that would have put us up 31-14.
It was lucky for Arkansas (and unlucky for LSU), that Doucet lined up on the line of scrimmage and not 36 inches farther back on Hester's TD catch that would have put us up 28-21, but was called back.
It was lucky for Arkansas (and unlucky for LSU) that Pelini didn't blitz Dick on the 4th and 10 in the 1st overtime, with Tiger Stadium in hysterics and the crowd ready to rush the field; and also that the LSU defense was hobbled and without Dorsey.
It was lucky for PITTSBURGH,(not LSU) and unlucky for West Va, that Pitt upset West Va.
LSU had nothing to do with it, they weren't there.
It was lucky for STANFORD (not LSU) and unlucky for USC, that Stanford upset USC - a 41 point favorite.
LSU BEAT their 41 point underdog - Tulane, USC DIDN'T.....
LSU beat the living hell out of the #1 ranked team in all the polls - Ohio State - by 3 TD'S (the last tOSU TD was garbage time.)
LSU lucky ??????????????
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO, the Tigers took care of business - Georgia, USC, Mizzou, OU, West Va, tOSU did NOTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
If anything, LSU had BAD luck, not good luck.
Injuries, dropping TD passes, stupid penalties, etc.
I don't think LSU running out all but 30 seconds of the entire last 8 minutes of the game by running Hester down UF's throats was "luck."
I don't think throwing a pass to the Auburn end zone with time to kick a field goal was "luck."
Byrd caught the ball with 4 seconds left.
If it would have been incomplete, the refs would have put time back on the clock (the stadium clock operator let the clock run down after the catch.)
I don't think it was "luck" that Chad Jones forced Bama QB Wilson to fumble near his own goal line.
Had Tyson Jacksn not had a late hit in the 2nd quarter, we might have increased our 17-3 lead instead of giving up a TD on the very next play.
It was lucky for Kentucky (and unlucky for LSU)
that Zinger didn't hold on to a TD pass right in his hands in the end zone that would have put us up 31-14.
It was lucky for Arkansas (and unlucky for LSU), that Doucet lined up on the line of scrimmage and not 36 inches farther back on Hester's TD catch that would have put us up 28-21, but was called back.
It was lucky for Arkansas (and unlucky for LSU) that Pelini didn't blitz Dick on the 4th and 10 in the 1st overtime, with Tiger Stadium in hysterics and the crowd ready to rush the field; and also that the LSU defense was hobbled and without Dorsey.
It was lucky for PITTSBURGH,(not LSU) and unlucky for West Va, that Pitt upset West Va.
LSU had nothing to do with it, they weren't there.
It was lucky for STANFORD (not LSU) and unlucky for USC, that Stanford upset USC - a 41 point favorite.
LSU BEAT their 41 point underdog - Tulane, USC DIDN'T.....
LSU beat the living hell out of the #1 ranked team in all the polls - Ohio State - by 3 TD'S (the last tOSU TD was garbage time.)
LSU lucky ??????????????
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO, the Tigers took care of business - Georgia, USC, Mizzou, OU, West Va, tOSU did NOTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
If anything, LSU had BAD luck, not good luck.
Injuries, dropping TD passes, stupid penalties, etc.
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Posted on 8/19/08 at 2:29 am to MetryTyger
Who cares... Just as long as we get lucky this year!
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:42 am to clamdip
We were somewhat lucky. We did get lucky when Pitt beat WVY though, woo man. Thank you PITT!
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:46 am to KHStiger
WE WERENT LUCKY LSU LOST TO ARKANSAS AND KENTUCKY ON PURPOSE BECAUSE WE KNEW PITT WOULD BEAT WV. HOW ELSE WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THESE LOSES.
P.S. LES MILES TO JACKSONVILLE STATE TO REUNITED WITH RP.
ESPN REPORTS.
P.S. LES MILES TO JACKSONVILLE STATE TO REUNITED WITH RP.
ESPN REPORTS.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:47 am to Fearthehat0307
Once again. Dude, you are tanked! 
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:48 am to KHStiger
HEY I'M NOT AS THINK AS YOU DRUNK I AM 
Posted on 8/19/08 at 3:54 am to clamdip
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'03 - LSU (like any 1-loss MNC team) needed other folks to lose, like OU to KSU.
yes, they needed teams to lose, but not oklahoma. oklahoma lost but still got in, and the general feeling was it should have been usc vs lsu. hence0 a "split
" titlePosted on 8/19/08 at 4:23 am to inebr8ted tiger
quote:
LSU a lucky team?
That's what they say every time LSU wins a BCS National Title.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 5:55 am to inebr8ted tiger
fortunate.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 6:04 am to clamdip
LSU's record vs. the final top 15 in 2007 was 5-0. That's a better record than anybody else had. In fact, a USC fan was giving me some grief about how unworthy LSU was to have won the national championship last year, and I reminded him of that fact. of course, I also reminded him that USC didn't even play a top 15 team in 2007.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 6:41 am to Summer Grove Tiger
On the final weekend of the 2003 season, LSU needed 7 or 8 specific teams to win. Some teams had to win by a certain margin.
Had one of those games gone the other way, USC, and not LSU plays OU for the BCS title.
Yeah, LSU had a little luck.
Had one of those games gone the other way, USC, and not LSU plays OU for the BCS title.
Yeah, LSU had a little luck.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 7:15 am to inebr8ted tiger
You got to be good to be lucky.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 7:36 am to raparoot
I've had season tickets since 1961 & have seen more than our share of bad luck jump up & bite us in the butt over all the yrs. Ask those players who didn't get a bowl invite when ND jumped into the bowl pool at the last minute if that was either bad luck for LSU or good luck for ND?? If you play ball long enuff, luck has a way of balancing out, but the one constant seems to be that good teams get more than their share of good luck & bad teams seem to always get the bad bounce, the blown call,etx. A good team is always prepared to take advantage of its good luck, as we did last yr when we stomped OSU & won the NC.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 7:51 am to clamdip
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'04 - U$C. I can't recall any lucky finishes offhand.
I seem to recall a game turning on a long Bush run that "included" him stepping out of bounds without being noticed. Was it the Oregan St. game?
Luck plays into it all. The only thing a team can do is to position themself where they can take advantage of the luck or where the bad luck does not take them out of the picture.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:44 am to clamdip
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'95 - NU. All I recall is an epic beatdown of Florida at the hands of the Great Tommy Frazier.
That was the last team I can remember to win a national title without ever having a game close enough so that a bounce here or there could've changed things. Nebraska's smallest margin of victory that season was by 14, 35-21 over Washington State, and the outcome was never in doubt. The Huskers beat 10-2 Kansas State by 24, 10-2 Colorado by 23, 10-2 Kansas by 38, and 12-1 Florida by 38. The Florida team they waxed was itself perhaps the best Florida team in history to that point as it came into the game 12-0 with its lowest margin of victory being 11 (49-38 at 8-4 Auburn and 45-34 vs. 10-2 Florida State).
That was the most dominant college football team of my football watching lifetime, I think. The average score was Nebraska 53, opponent 15. In four games against opponents that finished with 10 or more wins the average was Nebraska 49, opponent 18. Just an overwhelming football team.
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:53 am to inebr8ted tiger
yes. a very lucky team.
every Champion is a very lucky team. the 03 team was also very lucky.
it is what you do with that luck that defines your team.
every Champion is a very lucky team. the 03 team was also very lucky.
it is what you do with that luck that defines your team.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:55 am to inebr8ted tiger
The LSU lucky streak all started with Skip Bertman's 5 for 5 national championship games! The lucky streak has continued with Nick Saban and Les Miles going 2 for 2 in national championship games.
Just say "isn't it great!"
Just say "isn't it great!"
Posted on 8/19/08 at 9:05 am to JohnStOnge
I think chance does play a role in college football. To do something like what LSU did last year, I think a team has to be very good but also does benefit from things going its way some.
I think chance may even have played a role in the national title game. I think the play on which LSU fumbled the punt when Ohio State was leading and had all the momentum early on and a Tiger recovered it was huge. Part of it was an LSU guy hustling. Part of it was the ball happening to bounce a certain way.
Or the roughing the kicker penalty on Ohio State. The Ohio State guy came clean. It was no credit to LSU that the punt wasn't blocked and, instead, the drive was continued by a penalty. The guy really should've blocked the punt.
Another example was, when the game was tied at 10, Ohio State's running back breaking off a long run to put his team into scoring position at LSU's end of the field. On the next play, Ohio State was called for a dead ball personal foul that put them in a bad down and distance situation. They ended coming up 2 yards short of the first down. Then LSU blocked the field goal.
We'll never know what would've happened, but it's quite possible that it was that personal foul that stopped that drive and led to that blocked field goal rather than LSU's defense.
I know most people think LSU completely dominated physically but I don't. I think they did make fewer mistakes than Ohio State and did do a better job of making negative plays on defense. In that game Ohio State was the team committing most of the untimely, key penalties that really hurt them, etc. But LSU didn't run up and down the field on offense and they didn't smother Ohio State's offense either.
LSU played well in terms of minimizing mistakes, etc., in that game. Ohio State did not. Anybody who doesn't think you could take two teams like that, play the next day, and have a different outcome hasn't, in my opinion, paid much attention to what's happened in college football over the years.
I think chance may even have played a role in the national title game. I think the play on which LSU fumbled the punt when Ohio State was leading and had all the momentum early on and a Tiger recovered it was huge. Part of it was an LSU guy hustling. Part of it was the ball happening to bounce a certain way.
Or the roughing the kicker penalty on Ohio State. The Ohio State guy came clean. It was no credit to LSU that the punt wasn't blocked and, instead, the drive was continued by a penalty. The guy really should've blocked the punt.
Another example was, when the game was tied at 10, Ohio State's running back breaking off a long run to put his team into scoring position at LSU's end of the field. On the next play, Ohio State was called for a dead ball personal foul that put them in a bad down and distance situation. They ended coming up 2 yards short of the first down. Then LSU blocked the field goal.
We'll never know what would've happened, but it's quite possible that it was that personal foul that stopped that drive and led to that blocked field goal rather than LSU's defense.
I know most people think LSU completely dominated physically but I don't. I think they did make fewer mistakes than Ohio State and did do a better job of making negative plays on defense. In that game Ohio State was the team committing most of the untimely, key penalties that really hurt them, etc. But LSU didn't run up and down the field on offense and they didn't smother Ohio State's offense either.
LSU played well in terms of minimizing mistakes, etc., in that game. Ohio State did not. Anybody who doesn't think you could take two teams like that, play the next day, and have a different outcome hasn't, in my opinion, paid much attention to what's happened in college football over the years.
Posted on 8/19/08 at 12:06 pm to JohnStOnge
quote:
I know most people think LSU completely dominated physically but I don't. I think they did make fewer mistakes than Ohio State and did do a better job of making negative plays on defense. In that game Ohio State was the team committing most of the untimely, key penalties that really hurt them, etc. But LSU didn't run up and down the field on offense and they didn't smother Ohio State's offense either.
We must have watched different games. By the way, many of their untimely penalties were frustration penalties because they were getting shoved around.
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