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Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:25 pm to catfish22
Jones
Butch Duhe was a hell of a QB but the poor guy died while at LSU.
Butch Duhe was a hell of a QB but the poor guy died while at LSU.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:39 pm to Pop Inoff
Hodson
Rohan
JR
Jones
Tittle
Tyler
Risher
Wickersham
Rabb
Guidry
Booty
Randall
No Mauck or Flynn?
All they did was win a National Championship.
Rohan
JR
Jones
Tittle
Tyler
Risher
Wickersham
Rabb
Guidry
Booty
Randall
No Mauck or Flynn?
All they did was win a National Championship.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:43 pm to randyb
Really everyone should sit down and think about a rating system that would look something like this:
Arm Strenght:
Accuracy:
Reading covers:
Clock management:
Ability to get away from the rush:
Running ability:
Leadership:
etc;
Grade each canidate on a 1-10 scale.
Russell & Jones both get high numbers on Arm Str.
Herb will get very good numbers on running and getting away from the rush.
Just think it out a little.
Arm Strenght:
Accuracy:
Reading covers:
Clock management:
Ability to get away from the rush:
Running ability:
Leadership:
etc;
Grade each canidate on a 1-10 scale.
Russell & Jones both get high numbers on Arm Str.
Herb will get very good numbers on running and getting away from the rush.
Just think it out a little.
This post was edited on 8/17/08 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:46 pm to adono
Adono-
Read my post above. You mention a dozen qbs and still no Hillman. Does anyone even remember him?
Read my post above. You mention a dozen qbs and still no Hillman. Does anyone even remember him?
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:48 pm to tigger1
quote:
Just think it out a little.
I've thought about it a lot...it's Hodson
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:51 pm to dick
Hillman is one of the top 2-3 QB's of the 1960's.
Having Rabb on a list above Flynn or Mauck is little much.
Rabb had one very good year and two poor years.
The question on Rabb is still would Reynolds have been better as the starter in 1957?
Having Rabb on a list above Flynn or Mauck is little much.
Rabb had one very good year and two poor years.
The question on Rabb is still would Reynolds have been better as the starter in 1957?
Posted on 8/17/08 at 8:56 pm to dick
I wasn't saying Hillman was the best QB. He was certainly in the top 8, and had one of the best individual years of any QB.
I'm just wondering why everyone seems to have forgotten about him.
He was certainly as good as half the QBs on Adono's list.
I'm just wondering why everyone seems to have forgotten about him.
He was certainly as good as half the QBs on Adono's list.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 9:29 pm to 4EVERLSU1987
Bert Jones
JR
Tittle
Hodson
Mauck
Screen
Stokely
And let's not forget David Woodley (RIP) was a rookie QB with the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
Rabb
Hilman
Can't forget Tyler and the '97 Florida win, either.
Ensminger, Wickersham, Buddy Lee, Trey Prather (killed as a result of Viet Nam)
Really can't compare all of the above because of the difference in eras.
JR
Tittle
Hodson
Mauck
Screen
Stokely
And let's not forget David Woodley (RIP) was a rookie QB with the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
Rabb
Hilman
Can't forget Tyler and the '97 Florida win, either.
Ensminger, Wickersham, Buddy Lee, Trey Prather (killed as a result of Viet Nam)
Really can't compare all of the above because of the difference in eras.
This post was edited on 8/17/08 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:12 pm to kjacksonp
No one mentioned Alan Risher, who had a remarkable senior year.
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:15 pm to DSports24
quote:
JR
Davey
Flynn
Mauck
Tyler
Hodson
Dude have you just started watching LSU football since 95?
Jones and Hodson have to be ahead of Flynn, Mauck and Tyler. I liked Herb but he wasnt top ten as far as QB
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:39 pm to tigerbait2
The "Ruston Rifle" Bert Jones..... 
Posted on 8/17/08 at 10:41 pm to tigerbait2
My top 10 based on what they did at LSU only:
1. JaMarcus Russell
2. Tommy Hodson
3. Bert Jones
4. Rohan Davey
5. Y.A. Tittle
6. Herb Tyler
7. Alan Risher
8. Matt Mauck
9. Mike Miley
10. Matt Flynn
11. Mike Hillman
1. JaMarcus Russell
2. Tommy Hodson
3. Bert Jones
4. Rohan Davey
5. Y.A. Tittle
6. Herb Tyler
7. Alan Risher
8. Matt Mauck
9. Mike Miley
10. Matt Flynn
11. Mike Hillman
Posted on 8/18/08 at 2:53 am to TheEdge
People that can't imagine they would love Herb Tyler as much as they love JR are people that 100% jumped on the LSU bandwagon since 2003. Same thing with the Rohan Davey thing.
Anybody who lived and died for LSU over the years would never consider JR the greatest. That is just for the bandwagon fans or the #1 NFL fans (and to you people, JR couldn't get it done at LSU, what makes you think he'll get it done in the NFL?)
Anybody who lived and died for LSU over the years would never consider JR the greatest. That is just for the bandwagon fans or the #1 NFL fans (and to you people, JR couldn't get it done at LSU, what makes you think he'll get it done in the NFL?)
This post was edited on 8/18/08 at 2:54 am
Posted on 8/18/08 at 3:38 am to Fighting Tigers
Wow! Fighting Tigers tell us how you really feel.
I have seen every Qb on my list play, Russell is the most talented Qb in LSU history and only Bert Jones is close.
I saw Y.A. on tv play pro ball in 1964 and saw all the others play at LSU.
Russell may or may not make it as a pro, far to many factors at play to tell, QB in the pros isn't like rb.
A rb can come in and play with ease, but QB with todays near non-contact rules means QB's that start have near life-time jobs.
Some great college football QB's never had a real chance at the pros, this due to what team drafted them more than any other factor.
Herb Tyler is a very good QB, but the question really is what do you want in a Qb?
With your pick of Herb, I would say your looking for a running qb who could throw a mid range pass.
You would have loved David Woodley, his best pass was across the body on the run, much like Russell would throw at times.
I have seen every Qb on my list play, Russell is the most talented Qb in LSU history and only Bert Jones is close.
I saw Y.A. on tv play pro ball in 1964 and saw all the others play at LSU.
Russell may or may not make it as a pro, far to many factors at play to tell, QB in the pros isn't like rb.
A rb can come in and play with ease, but QB with todays near non-contact rules means QB's that start have near life-time jobs.
Some great college football QB's never had a real chance at the pros, this due to what team drafted them more than any other factor.
Herb Tyler is a very good QB, but the question really is what do you want in a Qb?
With your pick of Herb, I would say your looking for a running qb who could throw a mid range pass.
You would have loved David Woodley, his best pass was across the body on the run, much like Russell would throw at times.
This post was edited on 8/18/08 at 4:01 am
Posted on 8/18/08 at 3:53 am to Fighting Tigers
quote:
Anybody who lived and died for LSU over the years would never consider JR the greatest. That is just for the bandwagon fans or the #1 NFL fans (and to you people, JR couldn't get it done at LSU, what makes you think he'll get it done in the NFL?)
LSU didnt win the NC while JR was here, but JR accomplished plenty. you spout a lot of stupid shite. so any QB that doesnt win a NC in collge wont stand a chance at the super bowl?
taking a quick glance at some of your post, looks like you live to slam JR every chance you get around here.
This post was edited on 8/18/08 at 3:59 am
Posted on 8/18/08 at 3:57 am to tigger1
Hey Doc,
I see you brought up Doc Fenton, nice pick but well before our time to see play.
I can tell what type player he was and tell of many of his passes, but due to the nature of the game at the time; it is very hard to judge what he could have done.
1st One had to pass box to box (the football field was a checker board), only being able to pass to either side or the box straight ahead.
2nd The ball is much larger back then, more of a rugby type ball, which made it harder to throw; so its hard to tell his effectiveness as a passer.
Even with the two throws that beat Auburn in 1908.
3rd Also the field is 110 yards long, which makes it harder to score, but the team that scores does get the ball right back; as the defending team has to kickoff. Which makes it harder to judge the scoring, also a TD is 5, FG 4, extar point 1 or 2, safety 2.
The only great I left off besides Doc is Abe, and Abe played with a smaller ball than Doc; but still larger than todays ball.
Abe got hurt twice and was limited in play his last two seasons at LSU, much like Nelson.
I see you brought up Doc Fenton, nice pick but well before our time to see play.
I can tell what type player he was and tell of many of his passes, but due to the nature of the game at the time; it is very hard to judge what he could have done.
1st One had to pass box to box (the football field was a checker board), only being able to pass to either side or the box straight ahead.
2nd The ball is much larger back then, more of a rugby type ball, which made it harder to throw; so its hard to tell his effectiveness as a passer.
Even with the two throws that beat Auburn in 1908.
3rd Also the field is 110 yards long, which makes it harder to score, but the team that scores does get the ball right back; as the defending team has to kickoff. Which makes it harder to judge the scoring, also a TD is 5, FG 4, extar point 1 or 2, safety 2.
The only great I left off besides Doc is Abe, and Abe played with a smaller ball than Doc; but still larger than todays ball.
Abe got hurt twice and was limited in play his last two seasons at LSU, much like Nelson.
This post was edited on 8/18/08 at 4:02 am
Posted on 8/18/08 at 4:03 am to tigger1
quote:
IMO, JR was the least impressive black QB for LSU (except for the Notre Dame game in the Sugar Bowl). To me, the most impressive black QB for LSU was either Davey or Herb Tyler... I'm pretty certain that Jordan Jefferson will also join Davey and Tyler as the most impressive black QBs for LSU.
Since he got booted, RP doesn't count, unfortunately.
What a fricking joke. Seems like you're some clown who created an account just to come on here and spew shite.
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