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re: Middle aged males on antidepressants?

Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Earthquake 88
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:45 pm to
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Didn’t read the whole thread but at your age you should really have your testosterone checked. So many men get diagnosed with depression and find out later they have low T.


Sorry to be so long winded. But to explain what I have going on it took a minute. My testosterone is low and take biweekly injections. Looking at getting a small incision made and having time released testosterone balls put in but Blue Cross Blue Shield isn’t what it use to be because now they fight you on everything leaving one with large medical bills.
Posted by Eyesinweasel
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 1:23 pm to
Wellbutrin 300 and 1200 Lithium daily. I too am 40. I’m bipolar 2 so it’s more stabilizing than perking up. It took me several years to get my mixture right, so I’ve tried a lot of antidepressants. My most common side effect was lack of sex drive/performance issues. I never had any serious side effects. Most of those horror stories you read are people that don’t need to be on antidepressants in the first place. Hope you are able to figure out all of your angles.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59107 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 2:19 pm to
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My most common side effect was lack of sex drive/performance issues. I never had any serious side effects.


That sounds pretty serious to me.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 2:27 pm to
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testosterone balls
Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
671 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 2:38 pm to


Check this book out. I'm a vet with ptsd. Helped me out, once I got over how gay it looked and finally read it. Lyrica is pretty amazing for anxiety and neuropathic pain...just a thought. Cheers mate

Oh, and I have a pretty fricked back and knee. Went on the keto diet and have had significant relief...there are studies, albeit limited, that show positive benefits of the keto diet with regards to not only inflammation but mood. The mood effects make sense, as keto diet is used in seizure disorders and all of our mood stabilizers are antiepileptics.
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Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 2:51 pm to
51 here. Mental health professional. Started Effexor last year after a tough year. I was having insomnia, was irritable, and other symptoms of depression. I felt an almost immediate difference. Within a week I could feel a big difference. Still on it. Haven’t had side effects. Except for the first day. I took my first dose on an empty stomach. Don’t do that.

Also- if you take an SSRI or SNRI do not skip a day. Get yourself an app or something to remind you every day. SSRI discontinuation is nothing to fool with. You need to titrations down whe. It’s time to stop the meds.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 2:57 pm to
I am 30 and on Zoloft. It’s been great for me. I was on AD’s For the first time back in college and I stopped taking them because whatever I was on sucked. Got back on them a year ago and they have somewhat changed my life.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Tried Wellbutrin


I tried this several years back and it just made me irritated all the time.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Your wife probably appreciated more than the usual 2 minutes.


I'm 100% single.

My life consists of work, drinking whiskey, video games, and p0rn.

Not necessarily in that order and sometimes at the same time.

The only inconvenience of the side effect was my right arm would get really tired.
Posted by Earthquake 88
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 4:24 pm to
That is pretty funny Philzilla. I didn’t even notice that. I honestly don’t know what they call them. They are round and take a long time to stop working. Better than getting jabbed in the arse by a shot.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37915 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:08 pm to
My advice is don’t get on them because they are a bandaid and don’t last

I’m only 30 so idk if that’s what you consider middle age, but I was on Prozac, lexapro, then Zoloft. They all worked great for the mood, especially the Zoloft, for a while. But they always fade.

The worst was the Zoloft. It left me with sexual side effects that some might laugh at but they really became a problem. I could stay rock hard but couldn’t finish. I’m talking about fricking for an hour straight and I just couldn’t finish. I got to where I would get so exhausted I would just call it quits.

In hindsight it was a blessing because we were trying to get pregnant but are now divorced so I dodged a bullet. But anyway, I don’t think SSRIs help anyone long term. Try to find another way
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:13 pm to
Mirtazapine will help with a good night’s sleep and that will make you feel better quickly. Sleeping well and feeling rested gives you a better general outlook on many things that may bother you.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10323 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:15 pm to
I’m not a guy but took Zoloft and had serious issues with every side effect you’re trying to avoid. I also had success with Wellbutrin as it has a small stimulant effect and people usually lose weight with it. It’s an a typical antidepressant and is used sometimes to treat neuropathic pain.

I wish you the best and hope you get the relief/treatment you need very soon! Take care and keep us posted on your progress.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:21 pm to
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My advice is don’t get on them because they are a bandaid and don’t last



Yep. A real bitch to stop taking and then you have the rebound afterwards.


Go the CBT route before taking any drugs. CBT has been shown to be MORE effective and longer lasting than anti-depressants.
Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
671 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:41 pm to
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Go the CBT route before taking any drugs. CBT has been shown to be MORE effective and longer lasting than anti-depressants.


So wrong
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19605 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:51 pm to
For me it was weight gain, lethargy and some loss of sex drive. It took me years but I slowly weaned myself down to the lowest dosage they offer my medicine in. I've lost about 15 pounds, have more energy and my "new" wife seems to enjoy it.

Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:56 pm to
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5mg of Lexapro


Don't go with 20mg. Weight gain, kills the libido, all that stuff.

Makes you feel numb mentally and emotionally (which is good for severe cases), but it is a BITCH to quit.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61382 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:57 pm to
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So wrong



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As a general rule, findings suggest that CBT can do anything that medications can do in the treatment of the nonpsychotic disorders and it can do so without causing problematic side effects. CBT also can address symptoms on a more enduring basis.



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Research suggests that medications often work but they do so only for so long as you keep taking them, whereas CBT may reduce risk for subsequent symptom return long after treatment is over.



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The evidence shows that that CT is as efficacious as ADM, and that its effects are more enduring. Thus, even if CT and ADM work through the same mechanisms in the same temporal order to reduce depressive symptoms, any enduring effects of CT must be produced by mechanisms that are not mobilized in the same way by ADM. The model that is proposed in this article suggests that CT helps patients learn to recruit prefrontal regulatory brain mechanisms – a skill that these patients could continue to use long after treatment ends. 



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Cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) is more effective than medication in treating social anxiety disorder, according to a new study.

Evan Mayo-Wilson, DPhil, a research scientist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Baltimore, Maryland, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of interventions for adults with social anxiety disorder conducted between 1988 and 2013. A total of 101 trials with 13,164 participants were included.

About 9,000 participants received medication or a placebo, while the remainder received psychotherapy. Relatively few of the trials examined medication in combination with talk therapy.



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Among different types of talk therapy examined — including CBT, self-help, mindfulness and psychodynamic psychotherapy — CBT was found to be the most effective, the researcher reported in The Lancet Psychiatry. In addition, it has fewer side effects compared to pharmacotherapy.



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“Now that we know what works best, we need to improve access to psychotherapy for those who are suffering,” Mayo-Wilson said in a statement. “Greater investment in psychological therapies would improve quality of life, increase workplace productivity, and reduce health care costs.”




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While antidepressants are the most commonly used treatment for social anxiety disorder, new research suggests that cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) is more effective and, unlike medication, can have lasting effects long after treatment has stopped.

The findings of the study, a network meta-analysis that collected and analyzed data from 101 clinical trials comparing multiple types of medication and talk therapy, are published online Sept. 26 in The Lancet Psychiatry. The research was a collaboration between the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Oxford University and University College London.


Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3236 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:58 pm to
Ask about Lorazepam at 1mg doses. That worked wonders for me as far as an anti-anxiety drug is concerned. I took it as directed, only when necessary and had the prescription only re-filed once.

"I believe my brain thinks danger is near anytime I have pain or feel sore."

The other half would be convincing yourself that your anxiety is based in you mind. Attack that the "danger" isn't real when you feel the panic attack coming on.

That helped me as well. Good luck.
Posted by YoubeHillin
Lake charles
Member since Sep 2019
671 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:03 pm to
I'm a MH provider and can tell you that any serotinergic medication will run the risk of causing sexual side effects....serotonin prolongs ejaculation or even prevents it altogether and SSRI's are actually used for pts with premature ejaculation. Its postulated that these effects are attributed to the stimulation of a certain receptor, 5HT1A.

Trintellix has the lowest risk of causing these issues due to its novel ability to inhibit reuptake of serotonin while blocking that receptors activity.... but its expensive as frick

A cheaper alternative is to add Buspar, as it is generic and also blocks these receptors to offset this side effect. The funny thing is that buspar is FDA approved for anxiety, but is absolutely garbage for it but works wonders for SSRI induced sexual dysfunction
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