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re: History Nerds: The most decisive battle fought since the year 1800?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:27 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:27 pm to RollTide1987
Stalingrad. If Hitler wins, the Cold War is probably between us and a Nazi dominated Europe. The USA would've went all-in on the Asian front and much of Asia (via a fully democratic China, Korea and Japan) would be America's playground to this day.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:31 pm to Stealth Matrix
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Stalingrad
Stalingrad didn’t end Germany in the East, Kursk did. You could argue they didn’t have a path to victory after Stalingrad, but they hadn’t lost either.
I would argue Midway was completely decisive in the pacific. There was a 0.0% chance Japan given their lack of industry, manpower, oil and their quagmire in China was ever going to beat the US after those carriers went down at Midway.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:37 pm to Stealth Matrix
The battle for Moscow in 41 was far more important than Stalingrad in 42 as it was the only real chance the Reich had to collapse the USSR.
Even if disaster is avoided and the 6th Army manages to escape the Stalingrad pocket the war was still already effectively over. In fact the release of the divisions that were holding the pocket might have rolled up the entire army group.
Even if disaster is avoided and the 6th Army manages to escape the Stalingrad pocket the war was still already effectively over. In fact the release of the divisions that were holding the pocket might have rolled up the entire army group.
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