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re: The trope Confederates were traitors is bullshite
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:24 pm to Paul Maul number 37
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:24 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Defending yourself is morally the right one has in the world in which we live.
Only in the eyes of fricking Democrats would stealing federal property and attacking a superior army be considered defending yourself.
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:24 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Defending yourself is morally the right one has in the world in which we live.
You probably think Rashard Brooks was defending himself from those Atlanta cops
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:30 pm to More&Les
Les... your needle is stuck.
You cannot begin to compare today's parties with those parties150 years ago. It's rediculous to try.
You cannot begin to compare today's parties with those parties150 years ago. It's rediculous to try.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:39 pm to More&Les
quote:Once they seceded, Fort Sumter was no longer a US fort. The Confederacy did not claim ownership of any of the Northern forts that their tax dollars had helped to build before secession.
the Confederates attack the U.S. military installation at Fort Sumter.
Lincoln, needed an excuse for war and forced the issue with his aggression at attempting to resupply a fort that in reality was no longer under his command. Like I said, the Confederacy had a right to defend itself.
The north had managed to turn each dollar earned by the South into a forty cent profit for the North. THIS was the primary reason for the secession. They were sick and tired of being raped financially by the North. The North could not give up it's good deal for itself and decided that the South would not be allowed to escape from their abuse. They forced their will upon the South. The South just wanted to chart their own future without being robbed constantly by the North.
As to slavery, the North, in an effort to keep the South from secession even offered up an amendment to the Constitution that would have enshrined slavery forever. They could care less about slavery. They wanted their forty cents out of every dollar generated by the South to continue, no matter how much the South detested it.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:45 pm to footswitch
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Les... your needle is stuck.
You cannot begin to compare today's parties with those parties150 years ago. It's rediculous to try.
The funny thing is, the Democrats of today are a lot like the Democrats of 1860, they are used to getting their way, they claim a moral high ground which doesn't exist, they refuse to accept the will of the people and they are despicably using black people to maintain their power/way of life.
The tactics and times have changed but the Democrats remain the party of oppression and death.
And oddly enough, Republicans still stand for Freedom
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:02 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Once they seceded, Fort Sumter was no longer a US fort. The Confederacy did not claim ownership of any of the Northern forts that their tax dollars had helped to build before secession.
That's total bullshite, the Confederacy's unilateral decision to claim their own sovereignty didn't give them the rights over federal Property and troops.
Moreover South Carolina signed Fort Sumter over to the federal government like thirty years prior, they had no legitimate claim on the fort or the soldiers within.
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Lincoln, needed an excuse for war and forced the issue with his aggression at attempting to resupply a fort that in reality was no longer under his command. Like I said, the Confederacy had a right to defend itself.
So the Union Troops stationed there long before there was a Confederacy were just shite out of luck?
I mean, I know Obama and Hillary abandoned our troops in Bengazi but that hasn't always been the American way
The irrefutable facts remain, the CSA was an insurgency led primarily by former Democrats. Said former Democrats attacked the United States of America and started the Civil War, which they lost after the South was decimated and the United States of America, led by Republican Abraham Lincoln emancipated every Slave in the Continental United States and passed Ammendments granting Citizenship and voting rights to the former Slaves.
The Confederacy was a colossal fricking failure and it was rooted in an evil ideology that sought to preserve 400 years of abomination.
frick the CSA.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:04 pm to OMLandshark
quote:I'm pretty sure each of the 13 colonies had slaves when they seceded from England.
Yeah, seceding in order to have slaves. That's the American Spirit I want to remember.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:11 pm to TrueTiger
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And CHAZ carries on that spirit.
CHAZ is a communist movement trying to force the people into becoming slaves of the state. They are America hating losers that have never produced anything of note in their lives. They have zero American spirit. They embody nothing about America and are actively trying to stifle the spirit of America.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:23 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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And CHAZ carries on that spirit.
CHAZ is a communist movement trying to force the people into becoming slaves of the state. They are America hating losers that have never produced anything of note in their lives. They have zero American spirit. They embody nothing about America and are actively trying to stifle the spirit of America.
CSA
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:57 pm to More&Les
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Abraham Lincoln emancipated every Slave in the Continental United States and passed Ammendments granting Citizenship and voting rights to the former Slaves.
Wrong again. The proclamation ONLY applied to the slave states in rebellion. Five slave states, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, and Tennessee were not affected by it. In addition, there were Union occupied areas of Louisiana that were not affected as well as the area making up the state of West Virginia.
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it was rooted in an evil ideology that sought to preserve 400 years of abomination
Are you a total idiot? Slavery existed in the United States of America from it's founding until 1865. That's a total of 76 years under the US flag. It only existed under the Confederate flag for 4 years. Your 400 year number is a total joke. Take your stupidity and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:06 pm to udtiger
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This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:12 pm to udtiger
They were just CHAZ 150 years too soon. It was 4 years of love!
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:14 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Wrong again. The proclamation ONLY applied to the slave states in rebellion. Five slave states, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, and Tennessee were not affected by it. In addition, there were Union occupied areas of Louisiana that were not affected as well as the area making up the state of West Virginia.
I didn't say the Proclimation freed all the slaves, ever heard of the 13th Amendment?
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Are you a total idiot? Slavery existed in the United States of America from it's founding until 1865. That's a total of 76 years under the US flag. It only existed under the Confederate flag for 4 years. Your 400 year number is a total joke. Take your stupidity and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Yes, Slavery preceded the CSA but it was the CSA who split the union and attacked the USA in order to "Preserve" it.
Just facts bro, oh and GFY.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:15 am to More&Les
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I didn't say the Proclimation freed all the slaves, ever heard of the 13th Amendment?
Did you ever hear of the Lincoln assassination? He was dead long before the passage of the thirteenth Amendment. Also, the original Thirteenth Amendment had been proposed in 1861 by Ohio's Representative Thomas Corwin that would have protected and maintained the institution of slavery wherever it existed within the United States at that time. As far as I can tell, Ohio is a NORTHERN state. All of the northern states voted FOR this proposed amendment yet NONE of the Southern states voted for it. They STILL seceded from the union. This alone should tell you that the secession had nothing to do with "keeping" slavery.
This alone should tell anyone that the North did not invade the South to "free" the slaves. They wanted their economic slave, the entire South, to continue bending over and taking it up the arse from their robber barron northern neighbors.
The facts show you and your type to be nothing but ignorant fools towing the party line. We, who have common sense and brains, don't have to listen to your crap. Keep talking. You have bad breath.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:19 am to Paul Maul number 37
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I didn't say the Proclimation freed all the slaves, ever heard of the 13th Amendment?
Did you ever hear of the Lincoln assassination? He was dead long before the passage of the thirteenth Amendment.
The 13th Amendment passed the Senate on April 8th, 1864, can you remind me what day Lincoln was assassinated?
You can spin shite all you want, the 13th was a Lincoln Administration Amendment. Yes, Angry vile Democrats assassinated him before it completed the legislation process but it was his amendment.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:23 am to udtiger
Technically, they cannot be labeled as traitors anyway because the CSA was its own country. If they were Northern Sympathizers from the Northern Union fighting for the confederacy then they could be called "traitors".
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:24 am to Toddy
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Technically, they cannot be labeled as traitors anyway because the CSA was its own country. If they were Northern Sympathizers from the Northern Union fighting for the confederacy then they could be called "traitors".
How are you doing Toddy?
With everything going on what is your friend circle like right now - politically speaking? Do they feel the same sentiment as you?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:26 am to Magician2
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Do they feel the same sentiment as you?
Some do. Some don't. I've defriended the ones who don't. Sick of this shite.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:27 am to udtiger
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CHAZ doesn't bother me for just this reason.
What bothers me are the reasons and people behind it. CHAZ, as a concept, isn’t inherently bad.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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losers is a better term
Keyboard warrior shows his bravado by trying to antagonize long dead individuals. Stunning...AND BRAVE!
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