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Posted on 6/6/20 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by catchatiger1985
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 12:59 pm to
You stated what he said in the negative....it’s ok to think kneeling at the flag is disrespectful to the flag. It’s also ok to think it’s not disrespectful to make a peaceful non-violent expression of dissatisfaction with the social norms and injustice being JUSTIFIED by asserting patriotism. That’s conflation.

Brees caught a bad backlash that wasn’t necessary. I don’t disagree that there are people who in the name of defeating social injustice are supporting ignorance and incompetence by calling out an athlete for saying something that doesn’t hurt their cause.

But patriotism and human rights are by design intended to be separate. It’s the job of the people to make sure that human rights aren’t violated in the name of patriotism. If human rights are being violated in the name of the country, that demands something to affect change.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1260 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 1:16 pm to
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But patriotism and human rights are by design intended to be separate


You are absolutely wrong. Not in America.

It is built into our Constitution (unlike almost every other country) to protect inalienable human rights. You are not a true American Patriot unless you are willing to respect and defend that Constitution. Perhaps even die for it.

That is why it is so wrong to say you want change and yet disrespect the very institutions that defend your human rights.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:09 pm to
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But patriotism and human rights are by design intended to be separate

How so? The United States is the most humane country in the history of the world. Name a country’s citizens that donate to world tragedies more than the US? (unless the Clinton Foundation steals ala Haiti) This generosity and care tends to make folks patriotic.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 2:10 pm
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