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re: BREAKING: Grenell has declassified Obama officials involved in Flynn unmasking (UPDATED)
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:56 pm to Contra
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:56 pm to Contra
Can someone explain to me what implications unmasking these people have? I was under the impression we knew it was Powers and Rice that did it. Is this revealing who ordered the unmasking? Or, will this show and abuse of power?
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:05 pm to RemyLeBeau
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Can someone explain to me what implications unmasking these people have?
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Fox News reported in 2017 that the disclosing of Flynn’s identity could be “a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison” because “rules state that if an American with Constitutional protections is collaterally caught in such surveillance, his or her identity must be protected.”
I’ll have major concerns if Barr releases this and no one is in hand cuffs. There should be indictments before its released.
If he releases first, that tells me hes not bringing charges.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:12 pm to BobBoucher
quote:I was just thinking this.
I’ll have major concerns if Barr releases this and no one is in hand cuffs. There should be indictments before its released.
If he releases first, that tells me hes not bringing charges.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:17 pm to cajunangelle
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I was just thinking this.
Yeah. Prosecutors don’t take the evidence to the media, then hunt people down and make arrests.
This would be GREAT leverage to get someone to flip.
If he goes public with it instead, he’s throwing that leverage out too - and he’s signaling he’s not interested in criminal prosecutions for any of this.
This very well could foreshadow how the rest of the Durham investigation will play out.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:17 pm to BobBoucher
I think Grenell is the warm up pitcher with some fast balls before Ratcliffe gets in there. I think his confirmation is a done deal.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:56 pm to BobBoucher
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This would be GREAT leverage to get someone to flip.
Most likely that is all that will come from this
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:58 pm to Contra
Okay what are we expecting to see in this? A bunch of people who either shouldn’t have been or reportedly were not involved?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:17 pm to Contra
This still won’t pinpoint who leaked it to the paper which is the real crime. Unless the list is a single name. Or if everyone on the list also denied being the leaker. I guess that would tell us something. Maybe get them to turn on each other.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:22 am to BobBoucher
quote:Add in that Barr has switched back into saying a Durham 'Report' coming out. If there were true overall justice Warner, Schiff, Burr, Wolfe for leaking classified material & lying.
Yeah. Prosecutors don’t take the evidence to the media, then hunt people down and make arrests.
This would be GREAT leverage to get someone to flip.
If he goes public with it instead, he’s throwing that leverage out too - and he’s signaling he’s not interested in criminal prosecutions for any of this.
This very well could foreshadow how the rest of the Durham investigation will play out.
Graham--all of them for Ukraine ties. Durham has money laundering lawyers, correct? The Ukraine NGO's need to come out...
(Why did Huber sit on his hands, he could have done that) It is too big for justice- to continue govt. The most they will allow details from is the Flynn case. The rest will be laid out raw in all that we all have known, Trump will be vindicated. But the media won't report it as anything but Barr is doing Trump's political bidding.
They now have announced they will release the names of Obama officials. Get this...they still have mark ups and classifications and process so this will drag out for a who knows how long before they release. But why release the names if Durham is working on the case?
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:35 am to BobBoucher
quote:Why aren't the Republicans doing more to make him resign? Such a POS.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:10 pm to cajunangelle
I believe the penalty is for the following example. Im a chinese spy and they are taping me. They out me and in the prosecution Angelle's name is released as a confidant of mine when she is a US citizen who has commited no crime.
But in this case, its just releasing the names of the people who were spied on, with no implication of any crime. The person who queried them may also be disclosed, but as some have mentioned, its often going to list Fusion GPS or Crowdstrike as the person/source. They did have Susan Power and Rice listed as some of them, but nothing has been done, no one is asking about who they queried and why that person's privacy was invaded for no reason.
Perhaps they can use some of this omnipotent software programs Google and Facebook want to use to contact trace. When any fool knows the Kevin Bacon theory will show virtually and literally every American has been in contact with every other American, twice removed, every friggin week so we would need 300 million testing kits twice a day to make the testing effective. But no more tests, more tests.
But in this case, its just releasing the names of the people who were spied on, with no implication of any crime. The person who queried them may also be disclosed, but as some have mentioned, its often going to list Fusion GPS or Crowdstrike as the person/source. They did have Susan Power and Rice listed as some of them, but nothing has been done, no one is asking about who they queried and why that person's privacy was invaded for no reason.
Perhaps they can use some of this omnipotent software programs Google and Facebook want to use to contact trace. When any fool knows the Kevin Bacon theory will show virtually and literally every American has been in contact with every other American, twice removed, every friggin week so we would need 300 million testing kits twice a day to make the testing effective. But no more tests, more tests.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:20 pm to trinidadtiger
and also if the proper procedures happened and Van Grack was not allowed to take his ball and go home and he had to show cause in the courts...
Then the Obama admin couldn't say muh Russians national security we had to do our jobs.
Van Grack wasn't fired, did he take severance and full pension and go away to help the govt protect the coveted institutions?
Then the Obama admin couldn't say muh Russians national security we had to do our jobs.
Van Grack wasn't fired, did he take severance and full pension and go away to help the govt protect the coveted institutions?
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