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re: There is one defense that works 100% of the time in both CFP and Pro

Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:01 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171114 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:01 am to
You're a fricking broken record. "but last year!!!"
Posted by Got Heeem
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3631 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:05 am to
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It's been a long time since I've seen a fanbase so confident in their offense after having their way with Oklahoma. Almost a full 12 months...
We've done it all season bro
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 8:06 am
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
774 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:51 am to
quote:

It is when the posters suggested that OSU's struggles in the RZ will not happen to LSU because "LSU finishes in the RZ". Which is true....but they finish at a lower rate than OSU.


Yes, a rate 0.1% lower. I’d love to see your justification for the statistical significance of a difference so minute that it would require each team to make 1000 red zone trips before it could be validated.
Posted by DeepBlueSea
Member since Jan 2018
774 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:36 am to
So let me get this straight ....

LSU’s offense takes their foot off the gas at the beginning of Q4 with a 34-3 lead over the #2 defense in the country = “LSU couldn't even get 500 yards and 40 points against #2, so they’ll lose by double digits to Clemson”

LSU offense continues to play aggressive in the 3Q against OU, racking up almost 700 yards and >60 points for a 35-point MOV in the CFP semifinals = “Orgeron just loves running up the score”

So how does one evaluate a team’s offensive performance if MOV is a reliable metric but also not, aggressiveness in garbage time is meaningful but also meaningless, and YPG is totally predictive until it increases past some nebulous standard by which it then becomes “padded” and loses all validity?

Maybe a more pertinent question: How does Clemson perform according to those same standards? I’d think a person with such an affinity for stats would really enjoy exploring that, especially when he himself has been free to set any random parameters he chooses to create a favorable algorithm.
Posted by eltigre2
The Woodlands, Tx
Member since Feb 2019
626 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:41 am to
I have thought for a while that is the way to try and stop LSU but LSU can make them pay running the ball.
Posted by OrangeBoy
Member since Jun 2019
11 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:54 am to
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It's been a long time since I've seen a fanbase so confident in their offense after having their way with Oklahoma. Almost a full 12 months...



All of a sudden it becomes "Who have you played"? Really?
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:08 pm to
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I have. LSU has sadly played 3 1-possession games this year. All of them worse teams than Clemson. Which is why picking Clemson to win is the easy bet.


None of those games was LSU at risk of losing. All those points were CATCHING Up to LSU. You like numbers how about these two:

Clemson 21 UNC 20. Clemson didn't even score in 2 quarters! Clemson 24 Texas A&M 10. Hmmmmm, LSU 50 Texas A&M 7.
Posted by Jambalaya Sauce
Member since Sep 2017
271 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:09 pm to
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If you can run this defense, you stop the other team. Simple as that.


Hire this man.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9601 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:10 pm to
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Bama scored 14 points on a punt return and a trick play. So their normal offense scored 27 points against LSU.



honestly... 20.... because stingley should have never been playing man on their last TD that went 90yds with one throw... Aranda corrected that and said that TD was on him... that was about as much as a fluke as the turn and look at coaches TD.... LSU dominated that game, it wasnt nearly as close as the score... they caught many breaks in that game
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17887 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:11 pm to
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LSU has sadly played 3 1-possession games this year. All of them worse teams than Clemson. Which is why picking Clemson to win is the easy bet.


You’re not good at this. You don’t look at the teams LSU has played compared to Clemson, you dolt. You look at the teams they’ve played compared to Clemson’s opponents.

Do you think any team Clemson has played is better than LSU? I know the lazy answer for you is Ohio State, but—as this is subjective and pointless—I’ll just say “nah they ain’t,” and there’s really no way to factually dispute it.

This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17887 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:23 pm to
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UNC would beat Texas by 3 TDs.


Well, Texas just rolled number 11 Utah. UNC beat Temple.

No. No they wouldn’t. This is dumb.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17887 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:25 pm to
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this elite LSU defense will hold Clemson to 24.


I’m not the one making wild predictions, but this is the closest you’ve come to something that makes sense.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47550 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 8:31 pm to
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tigerdoc86

Does this dude remind anyone else of ole Kyle from Texas? Kyle had stats for days why Texas would beat LSU.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67069 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 8:40 pm to
Yet we score more points a game.

Good thing you don’t have to be in the red zone to score.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:44 pm to
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Auburn got pressure with 3 a lot of the time.

Auburn's defensive line was scary good this season.
Posted by CJD4LSU
Ray-Vegas, La
Member since Sep 2006
3505 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:09 pm to
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I want to know why you think those extra 1.2 PPG should make LSU fans predict scoring 40+ PPG against a defense that is as good as it was last year


Two words:

Joe Burrow
Posted by LSUAZ
Egypt
Member since Nov 2012
125 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:35 pm to
Due to redzone inefficiencies Ohio State left points on the field. Fields had his best outing and they put up over 500yds.
Remember this while watching an offensive firework show tomorrow against an inept untested Clemson defense. No huddle non stop coming your way which you have played against 0.0 times this year.
Good luck
Posted by Leon the pro
318
Member since Jul 2014
518 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:15 pm to
NOT.YOUR.AVERAGE.OPPONENT. Make sure you come back after.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:23 pm to
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Ya'll realize that a healthy Clemson defense is a bit different than a bad OU defense that is missing 2/3 of their starting secondary, right?


Lol at thinking we had a one game season like y'all.
Posted by LSUexile
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2004
541 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:35 pm to
Got Heeem, did you go to PC? I’m Class of 75. Go Blue Hose!
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