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re: I’d Like to Hear Some Arguments Why the ID of the Whistleblower is Necessary
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:44 pm to teke184
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:44 pm to teke184
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This. Under the 6th Amendment, Trump has a right to face his accusers.
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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:56 pm to texashorn
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This. Under the 6th Amendment, Trump has a right to face his accusers.
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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
This is why it wont go to the Senate. Right now, it's not a trial, and the Dems can do whatever they want.
This isn't a trial. It is for show, and requires a complicit and participating media. This is why they call a "witness," who gives their opinion on what they heard and how they felt, then Schiff runs out to the media during "bathroom/lunch" to do a press conference and get the talking points out. Then, the Rs ask their question and the morning's narrative falls apart. The damage is done and the narrative is already out there by the time that happens though.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:55 am to texashorn
You're not clever for WELL ACKSCHKTUALLY'ing the fact that this isn't a criminal proceeding just because it hasn't gone to the Senate yet. Rights don't exist as arbitrary words on a page of legal text. They're an expression of our country's fundamental principles that are supposed to permeate all aspects of our lives.
@OP:
The right to face one's accusers is a value fundamental to Anglo-American society and predates the Constitution. For the accused, it represents an opportunity to prove his innocence and gives notice of what he's accused; for invested bystanders, like voters in an upcoming presidential election in which the accused is a part, it represents an opportunity to evaluate the credibility of the accusations.
There's your argument. We the people have a direct interest in a fair resolution of this accusation, given its impact on an upcoming election. A fair resolution necessitates the revelation of the accuser.
@OP:
The right to face one's accusers is a value fundamental to Anglo-American society and predates the Constitution. For the accused, it represents an opportunity to prove his innocence and gives notice of what he's accused; for invested bystanders, like voters in an upcoming presidential election in which the accused is a part, it represents an opportunity to evaluate the credibility of the accusations.
There's your argument. We the people have a direct interest in a fair resolution of this accusation, given its impact on an upcoming election. A fair resolution necessitates the revelation of the accuser.
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