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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:01 pm to CoachChappy
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:01 pm to CoachChappy
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One question I have always wanted to ask a real atheist is: What keeps you in line? Most crimes go unsolved. What keeps you from murdering someone who aggravates you?
I don't want to live in a society where murder is a normal means of conflict resolution.
It makes for poor civilizations.
Additionally, I'm a human being capable of empathy. I don't want to be murdered so I'm quite certain others don't want to be murdered either.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:33 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Additionally, I'm a human being capable of empathy. I don't want to be murdered so I'm quite certain others don't want to be murdered either.
This is the "Golden Rule,"...Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 5:55 pm to SidewalkDawg
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I don't want to live in a society where murder is a normal means of conflict resolution.
It makes for poor civilizations.
Additionally, I'm a human being capable of empathy. I don't want to be murdered so I'm quite certain others don't want to be murdered either.
But empathy is just a feeling. And some people don't have it. So you don't want to kill people because you have a feeling that you don't like in conjunction with it, but Ted Bundy liked it. He had feelings he liked when he did it.
And the extrapolation from your actions to all of society is a red herring. That's a standard response from an atheist when challenged with the obvious problems with morality. Without an actual transcendent standard for morality, all that's left is individual preference. When challenged, the atheist uses this extrapolation, but just because one person acts on their personal subjective feelings a certain way in no way means that it will extrapolate that way. Everyone didn't start killing people just because Bundy did it.
In fact, a situation in which most people are averse to killing because of their personal subjective feelings about it, but you aren't, is the best position you could possibly be in if that's what gets you off. You don't WANT society to change if that's you in that scenario. You want to be the only one hunting humans like that.
The truth is that atheism has a philosophical problem that it cannot solve when challenged with what ultimately ends up being inevitable conclusions of nihilism. Without a transcendent point to relate life to, there is no morality (other than just subjective preference, which means that Bundy's is as valid as Mother Theresa's), there is no real meaning to life, there is no significance to anything. Atheism necessarily ends in nihilism.
The only people who actually act as though atheism is true are psychopaths.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 6:00 pm
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