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Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:33 am to Saint Alfonzo
You live in a larger reality than your life , a SHARED reality . It’s not all just about your perspective. That’s his point.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:33 am to Zach
quote:Why can't the burglars be Arabs or Hindus or Asians or Pacific Islanders or Inuits?
Thus, if the stereotype is that blacks are criminal then burglars in security ads must be white.
Or why not a group of burglars being a Pacific islander, an Arab, and a Hindu? (Oh so sorry to be robbing you this fine evening sir...where the fridge ah'm hungry for paypapa... while a guy faces East and bangs his face on the family carpet)
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:35 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Really? So your life is exactly like mine?
Irrelevant to "the world or the state of things as they actually exist" (definition of reality).
I know you progressive tards like to try and change the definition of words but I don't play that game.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:35 am to Zach
A) The point remains, I’ve never seen a single post on this board complaining about any type of imperfect depiction of reality except along racial lines, despite the fact that some type of misrepresentation is present in virtually every TV ad. AKA, selective outrage.
B) The FCC still doesn’t have a single anti-stereotyping regulation, yet the whole premise of your OP and this thread is that they are driving the changing demographics we see in ads through exactly that medium. AKA, invented outrage.
There’s an attempted coup going on in the house and you fools are stoking racial hatred through your selective, invented outrage nonsense. Stop distracting from the actual problems we’re facing; you’re making conservatives look like shite and just pushing reactionaries further left.
B) The FCC still doesn’t have a single anti-stereotyping regulation, yet the whole premise of your OP and this thread is that they are driving the changing demographics we see in ads through exactly that medium. AKA, invented outrage.
There’s an attempted coup going on in the house and you fools are stoking racial hatred through your selective, invented outrage nonsense. Stop distracting from the actual problems we’re facing; you’re making conservatives look like shite and just pushing reactionaries further left.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:36 am to Sidicous
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Why can't the burglars be Arabs or Hindus or Asians or Pacific Islanders or Inuits?
Hell, what about women? They're about 90% of the shoplifters.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:39 am to funnystuff
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yet the whole premise of your OP and this thread is that they are driving the changing demographics we see in ads through exactly that medium. AKA, invented outrage.
Wrong. The point of this thread is the alternative cause of a subject much discussed here. That alternative is govt instead of corporate genesis. I thought it was pretty obvious but maybe you're a tad slow.
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Stop distracting from the actual problems we’re facing;
Most of us can handle at least 5 topics at the same time. I can handle 50 easy. If you're limited I suggest you read more and post less.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:40 am to funnystuff
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A) The point remains, I’ve never seen a single post on this board complaining about any type of imperfect depiction of reality except along racial lines, despite the fact that some type of misrepresentation is present in virtually every TV ad. AKA, selective outrage.
Do you see the difference between a company overselling their product and a company trying to enact 'positive' social change by tinkering with demographical representation?
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:40 am to KANDUUU
Funny thing is that this type of convo seems to come up since it's been seen by many years ago, who were berated as racists. Not tea-leaf reading realists.
Reminds me a comment in a gay marriage thread yesterday, where there was a comment about being for it back when it was going through the courts, but the poster has no realized how mistaken he was.
Many just have a problem seeing last their noses.
Side note: Whats the reason behind this forum not having a "new comment" option on threads? One has to reply to someone to just get another thought posted. I'm sure theirs a reason, but not seen this before, so just wondering. TIA
Reminds me a comment in a gay marriage thread yesterday, where there was a comment about being for it back when it was going through the courts, but the poster has no realized how mistaken he was.
Many just have a problem seeing last their noses.
Side note: Whats the reason behind this forum not having a "new comment" option on threads? One has to reply to someone to just get another thought posted. I'm sure theirs a reason, but not seen this before, so just wondering. TIA
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:41 am to Azkiger
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Irrelevant to "the world or the state of things as they actually exist" (definition of reality). I know you progressive tards like to try and change the definition of words but I don't play that game.
Lol. I've been called a lot of things, progressive isn't one of them. You are irritated by commercials that depict a reality that is different than yours. Turn the station, turn down the volume, shut the tv off. You have a bunch of options to avoid seeing things you don't like.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:41 am to funnystuff
“Stoking racial hatred “. Lol. Holy hyperbole, Batman! He’s just pointing out the obvious- Madison Avenue has a social agenda that is heavy-handed and boorish. Observing that fact doesn’t make one “ hateful “. Lol.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:41 am to ruzil
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When one demographic that represents 6% of the population commits 53% of the crime..........
Funny how we never hear about this. It's all about the false narrative of WHITE MAN BAD.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:43 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Lol. I've been called a lot of things, progressive isn't one of them.
bullshite.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:45 am to Azkiger
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bullshite
If it helps with your reality, believe what you want.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:50 am to Saint Alfonzo
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If it helps with your reality, believe what you want.
Dunno why you're being so dismissive about "my reality", earlier you seemed to be arguing how important it is to consider everyone else's reality.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:50 am to Azkiger
Do you see that trying to promote ‘positive’ social change IS an attempt to sell their product?
Like it or not, there is a large subset of our society that consumes on the basis of social stances. Corporate virtue signaling is nothing more than the modern equivalent of corporate charity donations. 15 years ago, a firm would donate a million dollars to charity in order to be able to tell customers that they donated to charity. That ingratiated them to their consumer base and allowed them to sell more goods. Now that same firm instead spends a million dollars in ‘woke’ ads for exactly the same reason; it ingratiates them to a subset of consumers and allows them to sell more.
These firms aren’t trying to push you out of society. They’re just selling products. So do you see how there is no difference between a company overselling their product and a company showing that they support ‘positive’ social change? They are both marginally misrepresenting reality in order to sell more.
Like it or not, there is a large subset of our society that consumes on the basis of social stances. Corporate virtue signaling is nothing more than the modern equivalent of corporate charity donations. 15 years ago, a firm would donate a million dollars to charity in order to be able to tell customers that they donated to charity. That ingratiated them to their consumer base and allowed them to sell more goods. Now that same firm instead spends a million dollars in ‘woke’ ads for exactly the same reason; it ingratiates them to a subset of consumers and allows them to sell more.
These firms aren’t trying to push you out of society. They’re just selling products. So do you see how there is no difference between a company overselling their product and a company showing that they support ‘positive’ social change? They are both marginally misrepresenting reality in order to sell more.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:52 am to Azkiger
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Do you see the difference between a company overselling their product and a company trying to enact 'positive' social change by tinkering with demographical representation?
Sadly this won't change either. Read an article a bit back, can't find it, where it was saying that diversity focused ads were bringing in good #s. And how it still has room to go. Though iirc I was thinking how the #s were looking a bit with rise colored glasses to fit the narrative.
This is modern day "subliminal messaging". This, racial and sexual orientation, push is for the future gens. Lots of sjws, plus old white cucks wanting to make their sick sexual behaviours with their wives, are looking at it as changing the future. It's def working. Thing is I bet lots on this very site, don't know their white daughters secretly sneak around with the black boys.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:53 am to Azkiger
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Dunno why you're being so dismissive about "my reality", earlier you seemed to be arguing how important it is to consider everyone else's reality.
Here's my only point in this thread: Those of you who are bothered by mixed race pairings in commercials, which is what these monthly threads always boil down to, are fricking retards.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:55 am to LordSaintly
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ankly, this seems to be the only combination that riles people up (on both sides) and I don't understand why.
That one riles old white people and black women.
The one that puzzles everyone is white men with black women, because almost no one has ever seen that combo in real life. Black guys date white girls all the time whether they’re athletes dating sexy cleat chasers or regular black dudes dating fat submissive white girls who hate their dads.
I have attended mixed public schools my whole childhood and live in a city that’s majority black and have never once met a white guy with a black girlfriend, not once.
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:58 am to funnystuff
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Do you see that trying to promote ‘positive’ social change IS an attempt to sell their product?
It's still different from overhyping a product, though. One is social engineering and the other isn't. Whether the genesis of this is from the companies, or a portion of the country wanting to see it, at the end of the day its social engineering.
If that "large subset of our society" wants to see social change let them be apart of it. You want to see more representation of interracial couples? Do your part by marrying someone of a different race. I have no issue with interracial marriages. I do have issue with SJW's trying to change society by complaining alone.
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