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re: HOLY shite: Confirmed: Biden applied “direct pressure” to get prosecutor fired in Ukraine
Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:43 pm to Clashmore Mike
Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:43 pm to Clashmore Mike
Burisma lies about the a Prosecutor, it came out in their releases, with propaganda from the US. This was Joe’s doing. They admitted it, and Solomon released the transcripts. It’s coming out, Joe looks bad from what they’ve released so far. They made up everything bad about the Prosecutor...
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:44 pm to Covingtontiger77
John Solomon also reported in the Fall of 2018 the Ukrainian government was offering evidence of corruption involving several Americans and the DOJ was ignoring this evidence. Solomon says he and Mayor Rudy have it covered. Lol!
Posted on 9/27/19 at 12:18 am to lsursb
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Didn’t Biden himself brag about this?
Yes. VP Biden ratted out himself, and the MSM says there is "no credible evidence of wrongdoing by VP Biden>" How are these idiots not fired for such incredible stupidity.
Biden's mouth is evidence. He is on film confessing. Now we have this additional evidence from the prosecutor that got fired.
What more do they need?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 12:29 am to djmicrobe
Isn’t the additional evidence just the remarks from the same guy that many countries and people wanted gone because he himself was corrupt?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 12:40 am to SickGainzLP
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You're right. It stands out as being a very solid assumption.
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The word "assume" stands out there a bit
You're right. It stands out as being a very solid assumption.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 12:46 am to Mickey Goldmill
It is the only evidence thus far that supports either of the scenarios, i.e. whether Biden et al wanted him out due to corruption OR whether Biden wanted him out due to investigation of the company in which his son was positioned high up the totem pole. Everything previous has been circumstantial evidence or innuendo.
But this sworn affidavit is actual evidence. The only actual evidence anyone's bothered to put forward. On the other hand, there's a glaring absence of evidence of the corruption alleged against Shokin. Of which there should've been easy evidence brought forth by now if Shokin was so corrupt that the VP of the U.S. and high levels of other governments were actively involved.
But this sworn affidavit is actual evidence. The only actual evidence anyone's bothered to put forward. On the other hand, there's a glaring absence of evidence of the corruption alleged against Shokin. Of which there should've been easy evidence brought forth by now if Shokin was so corrupt that the VP of the U.S. and high levels of other governments were actively involved.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:10 am to Clashmore Mike
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I agree that this is a waste of time. At the time, the firing of this prosecutor was seen as a good thing, not only by the USA but also the other western democracies.
He was generally viewed as corrupt and there were numerous street protests by the Ukrainian people demanding his removal since he was protecting his friends and other political allies and oligarchs. Basically, the USA did not want to provide $1 Billion in loan guarantees to a corrupt government.
Whether you’re Paul Manafort, Tony Podesta, or Hunter Biden, if you’re involved in the Ukraine, you’re shady as shite.
In the case of Shokin’s firing, Shokin claims the reports of him not rooting out corruption were fabricated to prevent him from prosecuting certain individuals. This is indeed backed up by the Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s memo where Blue Star Strategies representatives stated that entirely different information had been circulated by the Kerry State Department. PGO Memo According to the memo, they were there to apologize for disseminating false information about the PGO in the Burisma case. They were supposed to arrange a meeting with the State department but as soon as a new Prosecutor General (allegedly hand-picked by Biden) was appointed, it never materialized.
Further, ANTAC, the anti-corruption action center in Ukraine claims that Blue Star strategies is heavily involved in attacking anti-corruption activists in the Ukraine ( ANTAC)
During Shokin’s time they represented Lyovochkin (who worked with Manafort to rig the sale of a Ukrainian telecom company in 2010 in favor of the Chinese - Luxembourg Herald) The same Karen Tramontano that appears in the PGO memo also just registered in 2017 to represent a Ukrainian NGO that, according to ANTAC, works solely on discrediting anti-corruption orgs (see previous ANTAC link).
So, let’s lay it out. Shokin was the Prosecutor General. He completed a number of anti-corruption reforms that are still in use today. Further, he had purportedly completed all steps necessary to charge Zlochevsky in the Burisma case. Meanwhile, an American political firm (Blue Star) with a track record of attacking anti-corruption activists in the Ukraine was representing a corrupt Ukrainian politician (Lyovochkin). This politician was working with Paul Manafort to rig the sale of a telecom company (Ukrtelecom). They later attest to disseminating false information about his office during that time - and that the State department information did not align with reality as well.
See where we might not be getting the truth here from our media?
As far as the protests: while I’m sure there were some legitimate ones, having the Azov Battalion protest you would be a point of pride as they’re literal nazis. Further, it’s questionable if the Automaidan protests weren’t the result of CIA operations. Granted, the claim came from Spetznaz soldiers torturing a protestor, we’ve been known to sow some discontent in our day.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:19 am to AggieHank86
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This thread is a massive waste of pixels. Biden has admitted that he put pressure on Ukraine to sack Shokin. That is not the question. The question is his motivation. Was he acting to protect Baby Biden, or was he acting in furtherance of US policy and the desires of the international community?
You fricking piece of shite. How many nickels is the DNC paying you per post?
You and your kind need to be exterminated for the good of the country.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:21 am to psk_Vol
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Of course they have "quarantined" this page. I'm sure the loony leftist subreddits are treated the same way. Humorous memes and parody making fun of leftists is considered dangerous and radical. Silicon Valley has made it clear they will be stepping in to influence the outcome of our next election.
I’m not sure I’d be upset if al qaeda nuked Silicon Valley right now.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:24 am to Clashmore Mike
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Believe what you want. I’m sure the former prosecutor hates Biden. He got him fired. Rudy is going to need more than this BS.
Why is it always the guys with Notre Dame logos who are the biggest pieces of shite?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:53 am to psk_Vol
Don't go down that path. Given the political climate and the enemies within it was "not smart" to fail to send a message that the President wanted American political and financial corruption investigated using an underling. Instead of on what turns out to be an open mike given the cold blooded Dems tactics of ignoring the law and the constitution. I smell Rudy G clumsiness. And the weak Republicans in the senate.
They are so weak they can't even fight back with an open confession and an admitted unlawful BS democrat whistle blower participating in criminal acts of classified info leaks from the WH. Pitiful.
They are so weak they can't even fight back with an open confession and an admitted unlawful BS democrat whistle blower participating in criminal acts of classified info leaks from the WH. Pitiful.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:49 am to jimdog
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:01 am to Speckhunter2012
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There was very little talk of corruption until Biden and the US started pushing it.
There's something to this.
These people play a long game. Pre-salting the ground by talking of corruption gives plausible deniability to future suggestions that Biden was motivated by something other than looking after "U.S. and our allies" interests.
It's just pure coincidence that his unqualified son was on the gas company's board.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 5:32 am to AggieHank86
Correct. Biden was carrying out a policy developed at the State Department and coordinated with the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 5:46 am to AggieHank86
It wasnt pressure, it was assurance backed by 1 billion in US Green. Obama admin loved giving money to corrupt countries, why so hard on the Ukraine?
Curious, anyone know anywhere else that type of pressure was applied?
Curious, anyone know anywhere else that type of pressure was applied?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 5:46 am to turbotiger
Its occams razor fellas.
Your son is hired for a job in a foreign country, a job he has no experience in, and suddenly you have the guy fired who is investigating the company. You can put all the lipstick on it you want...its still a pig and glaringly obvious.
Take the democrat angle they so love, rather than try and prove biden had the guy fired to protect his son.....have biden prove he didnt get the guy fired to protect his son.
Your son is hired for a job in a foreign country, a job he has no experience in, and suddenly you have the guy fired who is investigating the company. You can put all the lipstick on it you want...its still a pig and glaringly obvious.
Take the democrat angle they so love, rather than try and prove biden had the guy fired to protect his son.....have biden prove he didnt get the guy fired to protect his son.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 5:49 am
Posted on 9/27/19 at 6:36 am to AggieHank86
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This thread is a massive waste of pixels. Biden has admitted that he put pressure on Ukraine to sack Shokin. That is not the question.
The question is his motivation. Was he acting to protect Baby Biden, or was he acting in furtherance of US policy and the desires of the international community?
You know, for somebody who pisses and moans because he’s constantly accused of being a liberal, you sure do defend the liberal position a lot.
Just sayin’...
Posted on 9/27/19 at 6:38 am to Armchair_QB
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Why is it always the guys with Notre Dame logos who are the biggest pieces of shite?
180 posts in 5 years.
That’s a sleeper account.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 7:27 am to AggieHank86
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The question is his motivation. Was he acting to protect Baby Biden, or was he acting in furtherance of US policy and the desires of the international community?
This is so fricking embarrassing
You think it was a coincidence that of all the prosecutors in the world, the country Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion dollars from just so happened to have a prosecutor investigating his unqualified inexperienced son? That’s what you believe?
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