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re: LSU at Texas preview (in depth)

Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:13 am to
Posted by RadarTiger
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:13 am to
D-Line: DE- Ta'Quon Graham- Junior, DE- Malcolm Roach- Senior, NT- Gerald Wilbon- Senior: The Texas D-Line will be recovering from the loss of Charles Omenihu who was a elite pass rusher. Texas fans are confindent that Roach will have a re-surging year and become their go-to pass rusher. Gerald Wilbon has done basically nothing in his 3 prior seasons with only 19 tackles combined. However fans are confident that he takes a huge step in his senior season. Finally, Graham had 2 sacks last season along with 14 tackles, so they will need much more production from him.
EDIT: Keondre Coburn has reportedly earned the starting spot over Wilbon. Coburn is a redshirt freshman who recorded 2 tackles last year in his redshirt season.

My Take: This is an underwhelming D-Line depth chart in terms of returning production, so I like our chances. Roach is the most accomplished on the D-Line, but in the past two seasons he has not lived up to his freshman campaign, where he recorded 3 sacks. They hope that he can return to is prior form. They, for some reason, have confidence in Wilbon saying he pushed around Georgia a lot, but he only recorded 1 tackle in the game. I'm not high on their D-line and I honestly think that we will have the advantage, but they still could disrupt some plays. It will be intresting to see Roach and McCulloch (The Buck OLB) take on Deculus and Charles.

LB: Buck- Jeffrey McCulloch- Senior, MLB- Ayodele Adeoye- Freshman, OLB- Joseph Ossai- Sophomore: Texas fans feel that Linebacker is the weakness of the defense after losing Breckyn Hager, Anthony Wheeler, and Gary Johnson who were the heart of their defense. All the guys I listed as starters are still in position battles so it is still TBA on who starts, but it is clear that it will be a weakness. LB has dominated the talk on their boards, and it seems like it will be a hope for the best situation.

My Take: Linebacker is definitely going to be a weakness for Texas. All you have to do is look at the "FR" next to their projected starting MLB and see that there may be some growing pains. If LSU is interested in using RPO's, I would suggest that Texas would be a great team to start against. Texas fans are confident because they say that these newer guys are more highly rated than the previous guys, so they lose experience for talent which may be a good thing. I beg to differ because it takes in game experience for guys to gel. Devin White did not start his first season for LSU because he needed time to learn.

CB: Anthony Cook- Sophomore, Jalen Greene- Sophomore: Texas fans really like their corners coming into the season because both were highly rated recruits. They think both of these guys will need a little time to gel but once they do they will be the best duo in the country. Both guys played in almost every game last year, but it was because of their special teams involvement.

My Take: My take on these two are completely different than Texas fans. I think they are delusional in their talking about these two guys. They are right that both came out of high school highly touted, but all the good news ends there. Cook started one game last season against Oklahoma State (Because of an injury) where he defended OKSt's Tylan Wallace who had 222 receiving yards. It was clear all last year that Cook wasn't quite ready for primetime, but he will be thrown in the spotlight this upcoming year. Greene didn't get many snaps at corner last year, so I don't have any stories to tell. I think that this will be the key area for LSU to attack. If they put their guys in man to man coverage to stop the run, the pass will be there, but if they protect the pass the run should be there.

S: Caden Sterns- Sophomore, Brandon Jones- Senior: This is probably the best safety duo in the entire country. Both of these guys are absolutely insane players. Caden Sterns, who was once a LSU commit, showed out last season and is poised for another massive year. Sterns, crazy enough, plays a lot like Delpit, and is also on track to become a top 10 pick in the 2021 NFL draft. Jones is not quite as talented as Sterns but far good enough to hold his own. Both of these guys are play-makers and we definitely could see them make a few plays against LSU. (I share the same opinions as Texas fans here so their opinion is mine)



Defensive Gameplan:
Sam Ehlinger is a really good quarterback that will force you to cover the air and ground. He may be inconsistent in his middle and long passes, but he can still easily rip you apart. If I'm LSU I would take the "you will have to beat my best players" approach to the game. I would make sure to stop the Texas running game and force Ehlinger and the receiving core to beat your best position group. If you take the run out of a power spread concept, it becomes easier to cover.

Offensive Gameplan:
Texas's weakness is going to be their front 7. I think we will be able to run the ball, but if they do stack the box our receivers should be good enough to beat their corners 1v1. Their advantage is the play-makers they have at safety and they will put those guys all over the field like we do with Delpit. I think we should have no problem moving the ball on their defense, but if we are not clicking Texas can definitely take advantage.


How will the game go?
I really don't know. This can be a grind it out type of game because Texas plays great and the crowd throws fuel on the fire. Or LSU could do what they did to Miami last season. This game can go either way, but at the end of the day LSU is clearly more talented and more experienced, so that should give you hope. My hope is that the offense doesn't come out and things just aren't clicking, while Texas is just on fire on that given night. Basically a fear a perfect storm like Ohio State at Purdue last year. Basically saying, if we come out and play our game we will have no problem with them, but things do happen.

My Prediction
LSU: 34
Texas: 22

This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 5:36 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10792 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:21 am to
I think you’re pretty much spot on. Nice analysis.

I do think LSU scores once or maybe twice defensively in this game.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 10:24 am
Posted by Captain'merica0301
Member since Apr 2013
110 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:28 am to
I enjoyed reading and agree. I think LSU pressure up the middle is a difference maker. Edge rushers forcing QB to step up into a collapsing pocket or try and out athlete our defense to the edge seems like win win for us. While I do think we see alot of quick throws and screens from Texas, these still only play well between the 20's. I hope we rotate fresh legs over the center and bull rush him with some combo blitzes (delayed LB or S), wearing him down. 27-23 LSU
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:32 am to
Nice! Good job.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:33 am to
quote:

know this is very long. Please do not say TLDR, I want to spark conversation on this game and hear peoples thoughts after reading up on Texas. If you cannot read this post when you see it, go home and read it later instead of saying "TLDR." I spent time on this (gave both perspectives) and put it in a good format (I think) so please respect that. Lets see if TD can defy the odds and have a productive civil conversation about a game.


you are just asking for trouble.
Delete your whining i clipped in.

Its great work.

Dont expect miracles.

Just let it speak for itself.

I got downvotes yesterday on msb for no apparent reason but that it was me (long time out of the box poli board) posting.


Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19493 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

once they do they will be the best duo in the country

Texas fans are smoking something for this, and it’s not cigarettes.
Posted by thedentist45
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2008
559 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:35 am to
Didn't realize their Safety group was that good. Hopefully we can move the ball on the ground and use the quick routes effectively. Maybe pull there safeties up and then take some deep shots when we get a chance. I think I got most excited about watching a video of Coach Brady working with our backs on short routes to recognize zone vs. man and find the hole in coverage and sit. Simple concept but I feel like we have done a bad job finding openings in the 5-8 yard range downfield.

Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12413 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:43 am to
Nice job. I generally agree with your takes and predictions. However, you should probably mention Keondre Coburn on their DL. He will play just as much as Wilbon early on, and will probably win the starting job sooner rather than later. They are really high on him.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:46 am to
Good job. I agree mostly, especially about Colin Johnson. Apart from his size, I’m really not sure what they think he’s going to do to give us fits.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:54 am to
For LSU. Can our offensive tackles move up a level or two in effectiveness?

Can we make the Texas QB beat us throwing the ball.

Posted by Tractor Tug60
South Texas
Member since Apr 2018
3060 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:22 am to
Nice analysis. Thanks for all the time put into this.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68479 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:24 am to
quote:

D-Line: DE- Ta'Quon Graham- Junior, DE- Malcolm Roach- Senior, NT- Gerald Wilbon- Senior

quote:

LB: Buck- Jeffrey McCulloch- Senior, MLB- Ayodele Adeoye- Freshman, OLB- Joseph Ossai- Sophomore


This is where we can make our money this game. Their front 6 is not particularly great, their strength in their D is by far in the secondary. I think we can run for 150-200 yards this game.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10484 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:34 am to
Thanks for doing this, this was a good read... A couple things...

Where we win:
- If we win 1st downs on defense, I am not worried at all about Ehlinger throwing the ball on us. We have to put them behind the chains
- Collin Johnson becomes a non-factor
- Have to contain the edges as they will run some jet-sweep type stuff similar to Auburn. This is where having a guy like Grant Delpit is huge, as he can come up and make crucial tackles in space even when we do lose contain.
- Lock up their edge rushers


Where we lose:
- If Ehlinger can consistently run for 4 or 5 yards a pop then we will get gassed. Our DLine is stout, but they aren't great at causing disruption in the backfield. This will need to be generated by the LBs.
- Collin Johnson is big, and that scares me. I don't see him being a consistent factor, but all Johnson needs is 1 or 2 big receptions where he uses his size to out-man Fulton for a big gain or a TD.
- Can't allow them to pressure Burrow... The only times the offense looked inept (State, Bama, Florida) was when Burrow was worried about the rush consistently. When he feels comfortable, this offense can put up a ton of points.


100% the biggest thing to me is their ability to get ahead of the chains. If we can make plays on 1st downs, I think we win this game easily. If not, it will make for a frustrating 60 minutes.

LSU: 31
Texas: 17
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:42 am to
Fabulous Analysis - Appreciate the work you put in to it and thanks for sharing.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21788 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:45 am to
quote:

I know this is very long. Please do not say TLDR, I want to spark conversation on this game and hear peoples thoughts after reading up on Texas. If you cannot read this post when you see it, go home and read it later instead of saying "TLDR." I spent time on this (gave both perspectives) and put it in a good format (I think) so please respect that. Lets see if TD can defy the odds and have a productive civil conversation about a game.




Anyone they TLDRs this should be banned. Seriously.


Will give this more study this evening but thanks for posting this man
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7497 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:47 am to
quote:

because of his ridiculous size as a freshman.



He's 6ft 205
Posted by NFLU7
Houston, Tx
Member since Jan 2016
1255 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:18 pm to
Pretty good read. While I agree with most of what you said, I do think Johnson is one of the best WRs in the country and he can give us a lot of trouble with his size advantage. Not to mention Ehlinger can give us fits with his athleticism at that size. Our front 7 getting pressure and making it a long day for him will decide how effective and accurate he will be. Their front 7 is an obvious weakness and our interior OLine could be one of the best groups in the country which should lead to a big day for the RBs. We also really need to take advantage of our WRs all being experienced over their CBs. If they choose to play a lot of man coverage and IF Burrow is accurate we can give them a ton of trouble. All in all I don't think the gap between Texas and us is big but experience should play a huge factor in this one. My prediction is LSU 38-28.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10512 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:26 pm to
I say 27-21 LSU
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
AUSTIN
Member since Oct 2007
2128 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:40 pm to
TLDR

Cliffs ??
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94773 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:54 pm to
Nice work.


I think Ehlinger's running game is an area where we'll miss Devin White's combination of experience, leadership and speed. His ability to read a play and close in laterally was a huge asset.

Sam isn't a big play runner but they'll use him to pound out short yardage and pick up 5-10 yards.
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