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re: Russian sailors who died fighting fire on nuclear submarine averted planetary catastrophe

Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:24 am to
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:24 am to
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Much of a submarine crew is officers on any standard sub. Couple that with the highly classified status of nuclear subs, you get a very high officer ratio. US does the same thing I’d imagine.



i dunno what is considered a high officer ratio, but my first hand observation is that there are a crap ton of enlisted men aboard an SSBN.

when you say officer, are you referring to commissioned officers only or including Chiefs?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:39 am to
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i dunno what is considered a high officer ratio, but my first hand observation is that there are a crap ton of enlisted men aboard an SSBN.

when you say officer, are you referring to commissioned officers only or including Chiefs?


I served on subs a long time ago. Our ship's roster had 120 total crew. Approx. 12 were officers. I dunno how the ratios have evolved since I got out in 2000.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:13 am to
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i dunno what is considered a high officer ratio, but my first hand observation is that there are a crap ton of enlisted men aboard an SSBN. 

when you say officer, are you referring to commissioned officers only or including Chiefs


Going back to the Soviet era, Russian Navy policy has been that anything important is done by officers. This is in part due to implicit distrust of enlisted men, and in part because Russian conscripts served two year terms. By the time an enlisted sailor was beginning to be proficient in his rating, he was out the door and back in civilian life. Career NCOs were practically nonexistent. NCOs were conscripts too, with a little extra training, and subject to the same two year term.

The Russian military has been trying to move toward a more professional structure. Clearly it's not there yet.
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