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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:30 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:30 am to
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you ask Syracuse to choose between Dino Babers and the HC here, they pick Babers every day out of the week. Hell, I think the majority of LSU fans pick Babers.



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Goldrush25



The gift that just keeps on giving.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:48 am to
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It's like you're stuck 3 or 4 years behind everyone else.
Goldy's "logic"... Babers is making a name for himself at Syracuse, THUS, no other SEC team would hire Orgeron...
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 11:50 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:51 am to
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Goldy's "logic"... Babers is making a name for himself at Syracuse, THUS, no other SEC team would hire Orgeron...

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:51 am to
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While the finer points of Ensminger’s attack have yet to become clear, Orgeron and Ensminger have described it as a modern take on the offenses utilized by USC and Miami during Orgeron’s respective tenures at those schools.

“It’s an offense I’m used to,” Orgeron said. “It’s an offense we won national championships with



Now we're adding Miami into the mix?

So what we're going to get is that patented hodgepodge of an offense that the coach here is known for.

I don't know why he can't just commit to one thing and leave it at that. If you want the USC offense, just fricking install the USC offense and be done with it. Paraphrasing the words of Ron Swanson "Never half arse a bunch of things, whole arse one thing."
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:54 am to
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Goldy's "logic"... Babers is making a name for himself at Syracuse


Well that's clear. Everyone loves Dino Babers. He's a hell of a coach and could get a number of P5 offers today if he wanted.

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THUS, no other SEC team would hire Orgeron...



I mean Vanderbilt "might" but I'm not even sure about that. Certainly no mid to upper tier SEC school would take him. You suggested that Auburn might be interested. Those fans would burn down the school if they hired our guy.

The only reason he's here is because we had a simpleton for an AD and the coach tricked the fans into thinking he's one of them. The coach would never get over on Woodward like that.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:04 pm to
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You suggested that Auburn might be interested. Those fans would burn down the school if they hired our guy.
Auburn wouldn't be interested in the HC who came to their house and beat them? And, Auburn is no longer interested in elite recruiting HC's?

They were dumb enough to make Gus a multi-millionaire, so your supposition is possible.
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Really? Post a link to that (hint: you can't - never said that)


You're right, that was more likely Ree.

You probably forgot which account you were posting under.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Auburn wouldn't be interested in the HC who came to their house and beat them? And, Auburn is no longer interested in elite recruiting HC's?



We also beat UGA. You think they want our guy over Kirby?

Auburn has recruited about as well as us anyway over the past 3 years so I don't know why you keep banging this recruiting drum. A lot of coaches can recruit well in the SEC. At some point you need more than that.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Now we're adding Miami into the mix?

So what we're going to get is that patented hodgepodge of an offense that the coach here is known for.
Again, what is your timeline? I'll help. This was prior to the '18 season. They have now brought in Brady to install a Spread/RPO.

My best guess is the Spread/RPO will be replaced by an even better offence within a couple years. Thru hard-knocks, Orgeron knows he will have to change his offense yet again to keep up (in a couple years).

Miles, Jimbo, Gus? They may get the 'your offense is dead" memo, but they'll toss it in the trash can.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:19 pm to
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My best guess is the Spread/RPO will be replaced by an even better offence within a couple years. Thru hard-knocks, Orgeron knows he will have to change his offense yet again to keep up (in a couple years).



We haven't had a single decent offense under him. He doesn't need to be changing anything. Get good at one thing before you switch it up.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:24 pm to
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The only reason he's here is because we had a simpleton for an AD


The reason he is here is that there were no other upper tier candidates who posed less risk. We whiffed on Jimbo because of Jindal/Alexander and we whiffed on Herman because he landed his dream job.

It’s worked out okay thus far.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93948 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:25 pm to
I think the counter argument is that he is building towards what he wants and what the newest trend is. The problem with that is just as you've stated. What he's said he wants and what this newest trend is are two entirely different things. I honestly don't care too much what they run as long as they put the ball in the endzone. I would draw the line at the old school triple option like Paul Johnson runs.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:27 pm to
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We haven't had a single decent offense under him. He doesn't need to be changing anything. Get good at one thing before you switch it up.

An HC doesn't get to decide if his offense is good enough. His opponents determine that.

If something pops up in a couple years that is killer strong, Orgeron will change. Gus, Miles, Jimbo? I doubt it.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:30 pm to
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If something pops up in a couple years that is killer strong, Orgeron will change.

Who is going to win the Super Bowl next year? I would like to place a bet since you know the future so well.
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
7092 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:33 pm to
What's funny is that IF, God forbid, the Joe Brady experiment doesn't work out this coming year, (I have my reservations on the whole arrangement, but that's for another thread) Buckeye Jeaux and Ree will be the first ones on this board, once December hits, to try to incite the masses against Brady.

Once again, it won't be Orgeron's fault. The offense still sucks because all these incompetent people just keep getting in his way. That will be the narrative.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:36 pm to
Please Loony. You're a baseball guy. Not a football guy, Right? You don't do badly with football for a
baseball guy, but football ain't your main game.

How couud you not know that elite offense get figured out by elite DC's every few years.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:38 pm to
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If something pops up in a couple years that is killer strong, Orgeron will change.


That's the wrong way to go about it IMO.

You don't win by changing with the trends. You either set the trends or do your own thing, which is also setting a trend.

Where is the genius in seeing what everyone else is doing before you do it?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93948 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:39 pm to
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You're a baseball guy. Not a football guy, Right?

Played baseball, not football but enjoy football much more.
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How couud you not know that elite offense get figured out by elite DC's every few years.

As the kids say these days, shitty troll is shitty. Where is this even coming from? Who said this or even insinuated it?
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
7092 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:42 pm to
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An HC doesn't get to decide if his offense is good enough. His opponents determine that.


You cannot be serious, right? You have to be trolling.

No coach in ANY sport at the Div I level operates with that loser, beta-bitch mentality. They understand that if you aren't ahead of the curve, you're behind it.

Guys like Saban,(past) Urban Meyer, Dabo Swinney, Chris Peterson, Lincoln Riley, etc. run their programs so that THEY dictate the effectiveness of their philosophy; not some unnamed outside source.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:44 pm to
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As the kids say these days, shitty troll is shitty. Where is this even coming from? Who said this or even insinuated it?

You insinuated it with your snarky Super Bowl question. Even Urban Meyer's Read/Option got figured out. He won 3* Natty's with that O, Then Va Tech DC Bud Foster figured it out. Meyer waited 2 years too long to change. It cost him his dream job.

Actually 2. Cardale Jones ran his own flag-football offense for the 3rd Natty.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 12:50 pm
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