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re: Let's be real for a minute, everyone knows that universal healthcare isn't free.

Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:10 am to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:10 am to
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They might use the excuse "well, we don't have the money for it." Yet, have no problem whatsoever spending trillions on endless wars in the Middle East.



The wars in the mideast has cost us just a little under 2.5 trillion for nearly twenty years. LINK

Universal healthcare would cost us 32 trillion for ten years. LINK

Those are numbers that has been confirmed by nonpartisan studies.

Yes, we literally cannot afford universal healthcare.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:14 am to
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Yes, we literally cannot afford universal healthcare

But he's willing to spend five or $10 out of each paycheck! LOL
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25887 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:54 am to
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Universal healthcare would cost us 32 trillion for ten years. LINK


While I am not arguing Medicare for All is "affordable" or politically possible even if it was affordable I think that number is significantly disingenuous. Even assuming that is the accurate cost it does not go the next step and reduce that amount by the total (or a significant portion) of the private health insurance payments currently made.

The actual "cost" is significantly more complex when you consider the above, along with the costs the government pays now, the economic impact of moving the majority of health insurance from the private to the public sector, the economic impact of potentially a more healthy workforce along with the hopefully lower cost of treating people who can seek earlier care and prevention.

I would love to see a true number for the additional cost or savings to the country as a whole for Medicare for All but complex economic numbers like this are never accurate.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:51 am to
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Universal healthcare would cost us 32 trillion for ten years. 

How much is that cost inflated by ridiculous prescription drug prices tho? Not advicating for UHC but that number seems high and I wonder if reform in that sector would bring that number down.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90945 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:47 am to
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Universal healthcare would cost us 32 trillion for ten years.


3.2 trillion per year required. Taxes would have to double for everyone assuming all else stays relatively the same I.e economic growth and such
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