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re: Does the LSU administration understand the definition of Supply and Demand?

Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Does the LSU administration understand


We are talking about the guys who fire a NC coach who averaged ten wins a year and replaced him with a DL guy who has never even sniffed any title. After the new guy goes 10-3, 5-3 to finish third in the west and fifth in the SEC these guys think a raise and extension is in order.


Don't hold your breath expecting them to learn anything.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:02 pm to
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Did coach O manipulate things in any way that caused any of the above to happen as it did or did he just play out things as they were laid out?


Ed Orgeron isn't the reason Miami went 7-6
Ed Orgeron isn't the reason Auburn went 8-5
Ed Orgeron isn't the reason Miss St went 8-5
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30468 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:16 pm to
I think Alleva gets it. But the bastards of the BOS don’t give him any authority or Leeway.

We saw that when the Facebook moms prevented miles from getting fired.

I do however think Alleva got suckered into a bad, bad, BAD 2012 miles extension.

Saban prolly offered Arky a couple million To feign interest in miles forcing LSU to act. That was the nail in the coffin for our football program’s rise. The decline was real.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119027 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:18 pm to
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The amount of a commodity, product, or service available and the desire of buyers for it, considered as factors regulating its price.


Right. The price is one of the lowest in the SEC in a top ten profitable NCAA CFB program.

That's called value.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119027 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:19 pm to
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We saw that when the Facebook moms prevented miles from getting fired.
Posted by Johnny Walker
Member since Mar 2019
24 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:20 pm to
I demand that LSU supply our basketball program with Will Wade. Is that how it works?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Right. The price is one of the lowest in the SEC in a top ten profitable NCAA CFB program. That's called value.


And the demand?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57525 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Why is LSU rushing to do this today?


Distraction
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:22 pm to
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MSU, Miami, and Auburn were atrocious compared to expectations this year.


Ok but Florida ended up being a top ten loss on the road. That’s not as bad as people originally thought at the time of the game.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65078 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Ed Orgeron isn't the reason Miami went 7-6
Ed Orgeron isn't the reason Auburn went 8-5
Ed Orgeron isn't the reason Miss St went 8-5

he's not responsible at all for those records? I could have sworn he beat all those three teams.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:27 pm to
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he's not responsible at all for those records? I could have sworn he beat all those three teams.


Are you stupid or something?

He's not responsible for Auburn going from a top 10 team to a 7 win team

He's not responsible for Miami going from a top 10 team to a 8 win team

He's not responsible for Miss St going from a top 15 team to a 8 win team
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65078 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Are you stupid or something?

No, just responding to your post. If you intended to frame your argument differently, then that's a you problem. Had we lost to State, State goes into bowl season 9-3, Auburn 8-4, and Miami 8-4. State may have even been ranked in the top 10. So, in fact, Orgeron and LSU are objectively part of the reason those teams finished with the records and rankings they did. Look at State's losses, for instance. They lost @ #1 Alabama, @ #7 LSU, @ #10 Kentucky, and #6 Florida in the regular season. You don't think one of those games going a different way, maybe just maybe results in a different outcome and ranking for them?

No, I'm not "stupid." I just don't think emotionally like you seem to be doing ITT
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:37 pm to
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They lost @ #1 Alabama, @ #7 LSU, @ #10 Kentucky, and #6 Florida in the regular season. You don't think one of those games going a different way, maybe just maybe results in a different outcome and ranking for them?


Why are you posting their at the time rankings?

LSU was projected to go 7-5 or 8-4 mainly because their schedule was going to be filled with a top 10 Miami, top 10 Auburn, and a top 15 Miss St.

LSU's schedule underachieved just as much as LSU football overachieved
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65078 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Why are you posting their at the time rankings?

I'm not, other than Alabama, my apologies, that was an oversight, so change the 1 with a 2, doesn't really make a material difference. LSU and Florida finished the season 6 and 7 and Kentucky finished 10th. If I did "at the time of the game," Florida was unranked, Kentucky was unranked, and LSU was ranked 5th.
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LSU was projected to go 7-5 or 8-4 mainly because their schedule was going to be filled with a top 10 Miami, top 10 Auburn, and a top 15 Miss St.

ok
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LSU's schedule underachieved just as much as LSU football overachieved

That's why they play the games. LSU, relative to the other teams in the country this year, earned a 6/7 ranking at the end of the season based on who they beat and who they lost to. If you disagree with the polls, you are entitled to that opinion, but it's still just that, your opinion. We all have them. people disagreeing with yours doesn't make them "stupid," as you so eloquently put it.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:50 pm to
Fair enough. Sorry for calling you stupid.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Your opinion is your opinion, but it's still the wrong one. Top programs in college football will not allow their head coach to approach a lame duck season. 


He has 3 years left
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:54 pm to
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The scenario of a recruit or his parent asking Orgeron the following question: 

Coach, why isnt your contract extended to a year in which I'll be a junior or senior 

Is just as likely as: 

Coach, why should I come to LSU when you are making half of what Saban, Dabo, Kirby Smart, Dan Mullen, etc. are making? Why is LSU paying it's HC so low?


This. No program has ever lost a recruit because the hc was under contract for 3 years instead of 5 years.
Posted by BigLSUBaller
Member since Mar 2019
11 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:41 pm to
Coach O has a limited shelf life with the walls closing in on him with OLOL investigation
Posted by Four Leaf Tayback
Member since Aug 2017
1621 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:39 pm to
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what they hell they are doing, and they are going to give Ed Orgeron more money.


Ed is a yes man.

Remember when Ed and his OC weren’t getting along? Ed allowed JA to to sit in on watching game film with them. What respectable HC would allow the AD to sit in a film session? It also shows how worthless JA is as AD. No other AD would’ve done this
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9543 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:08 pm to
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LSU's schedule underachieved just as much as LSU football overachieved

LSU finished the regular season with the #1 ranked strength of schedule according to both TeamRankings and S&P+. I believe we had #1 SoS in the Sagarin rankings too, but I can’t seem to find that data from before the conference championships. Obviously the SoS ranking suffered a bit following conference championships and the CFP, but our regular season schedule was difficult regardless.

FWIW, S&P+ predicted the average top 5 team would win 78.9% of its games against our regular season schedule. LSU won 75% (10-2 would have been 83.3%).
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