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re: Loomis and demps just got played.

Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by Rjlsu85
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:20 pm to
Not really this isn’t English class and I’m sure you can read
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:20 pm to
Can you just shut the frick up?
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Again the problem with that is us you can see what the clippers can come up with but we both know they don’t have anything being that they just traded away their best player so who’s left to trade besides picks SGA and who else? The knicks offer is predicated on them getting the #1 pick and not wanting Zion who would bring a new excitement to Madison square along with the possibility of getting KD and kyrie and also being able to sign AD in free agency the following year if he’s traded to Boston and doesn’t stay. And while you say the lakers players didn’t wanna come only 1 person actually said that’s and that’s lavar about lonzo who’s in his 2nd year so he really doesn’t have any say so regarding that.


Shai is arguably the best prospect between the two teams right now.

And of the Knicks, I'd take 1-3 over any combo that the Lakers have offered so far. Ja Morant, Zion, and RJ Barrett are all better prospects than anything the Lakers have right now outside of Lebron. And none come with developing attitude problems and a father poised to toxify the locker room.

Same goes with Boston. Boston who has Tatum and the increasingly enticing Memphis pick that very well may be unprotected in their more and more likely rebuilding period in the double draft year.

You can try and tell yourself that somehow AD is going to garner less interest than Kawhi did, despite even more adamance and concern about only having one state he was comfortable going to, but again, you Lakers homers seem to be the only ones convinced of this and I am more prone to thinking it is attributable to motivated reasoning over objective assessment of the situation. And when I hear you all trying to argue the Lakers under-developed young guys and questionable journeymen are prizes to behold, I get more convinced of that.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:30 pm to
It's not out of the realm of possibility that AD sees the shite show thats going on in LA and decides to stay in Boston or NY. Sure he and his dad don't want to go there but if its a more stable situation that can easily change

Look, if AD is really tired of not competing I'm not sure LA is really even in his best interest. In Boston he is competing for a finals spot.

LA is not beating GS as is.
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:31 pm to
While I agree that those 3 do appear to be better prospects out of the lakers group let’s not forget that the lakers were offering a group and not just that 1 player. So I’d take the lakers 4 vs Morant, Zion or RJ. And add in hart and what would’ve been Zubac also
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:44 pm to
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It's not out of the realm of possibility that AD sees the shite show thats going on in LA and decides to stay in Boston or NY. Sure he and his dad don't want to go there but if its a more stable situation that can easily change

Look, if AD is really tired of not competing I'm not sure LA is really even in his best interest. In Boston he is competing for a finals spot.

LA is not beating GS as is.

If I'm purely speculating my bet is part of the pitch to AD with LA is that there are other parts in motion.

Including that they will lure a third(maybe fourth) star with the available cap space.

If it starts to look like that might not happen, I suspect the eyes will wander a bit and the mind will open.

And if I'm reading the landscape right now, I don't see Kyrie going to LA, KD and his increasingly inadequate feeling ego certainly isn't, Kawhi is perhaps your best chance but I think the Raptors are making a strong case right now(and he's shown more interest int he Clips than anything), Kemba maybe(but is it enough?), Klay probably not, Cousins maybe(but the Lakers weren't interested before). Then you get into the tier two guys like Jordan and Harris.

And as those players disperse, and some shockers happen, a lot of teams start looking appealing as well. Probably one or two we didn't expect.
Posted by PTLSU
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:44 pm to
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Rjlsu85


I seriously think that you might be the dumbest mother fricker on planet Earth.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:51 pm to
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While I agree that those 3 do appear to be better prospects out of the lakers group let’s not forget that the lakers were offering a group and not just that 1 player. So I’d take the lakers 4 vs Morant, Zion or RJ. And add in hart and what would’ve been Zubac also




Ingram is about the only one of those 4 worth a mention as still being a meaningful prospect. And even he isn't without some serious questions at this point as his development seems to be stagnating.

Kuzma being a nice, albeit flawed role player, the rest are trade filler and a cancer.

I'll take a 1-3 pick, Knox and a future pick over that package any day.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:54 pm
Posted by RUFshreve
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:59 pm to
Why are yall responding to this idiot? He's obviously a Lakers fan.

No Pacers fan is gonna take the time to sign up here and write up a 1,000 word thread just to tell us we screwed up by not taking the Lakers sorry azz trade offer.
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:03 pm to
purplepylon thanks for posting this gif, saved for future use.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:03 pm to
And it’s not out of the realm of possibility for what I originally stated to happen also. And what shite show in LA do you speak of? And idk if he’s tired of competing or just not being good enough with him and lebron and a 3rd star they’d be more than just competitive with the warriors or even as currently constructed with the addition of just AD next summer they’d be more than just competitive.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5035 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:12 pm to
Lebron has maybe a 3 year window. If they can't get a star than he's certainly no better of there than he is here at least basketball wise.

and don't act like it's a given LA gets more stars. They have gone through quite a period to where they were struggling to get people there.

I said this before. This is not the Jerry buss lakers. The expectations people have of them returning to what they were may not happen.
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:14 pm to
Kyrie is most likely to go to NY than LA but either of which punctures the whole Boston deal. KD will go either the same but if your premise is his disdain for the media then LA is the better fit than NY. Boogie is also the other likely option there being that GS can’t resign him. Bottom line is I believe Boston deals falls apart if Kyrie leaves which is looking more and more likely than what it was at the beginning when he said he would resign this summer. So then what’s left is NY who has to get a top 3 pick and be willing to deal it. Mainly the #1 pick for Zion. And while yes Morant and RJ are really good they don’t appear to be close to the prospect that Zion is so why would you give up AD for that and Knox and a pick.
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
74 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:15 pm to
We both know that prior to this their struggles to get top free agents was due to Kobe being there.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5035 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:18 pm to
fair enough, but maybe not. Management has alot to do with that as well. Baby Busses don't have the business savvy of their old man. But time will tell

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:23 pm to
Knox and possibly DSJ who at worse is about the same level prospect that Ball is.

Every GM in the NBA would probably take Zion, RJ, or Morant along with Knox and DSJ over what the lakers can offer. Esp with Ingrams contract coming up soon and having to overpay what he will be worth to keep him since he would be the 'prize' of the package if traded for AD.....Hard pass,

I'd rather just screw the other teams if they low ball us and ride out another year with AD trying to win and make him choose passing up guaranteed millions as the highest paid player in the NBA to go play with a broke down late 30's Lebron in 2020 if he wishes....
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:35 pm to
Rumor from agents was that top guys refused to consider LA bcuz they didn’t wanna play with Kobe. With Magic and Pelinka who’s a former agent himself running things it seems to be looking up for them as well as the timing of this era of players wanting to link up and play together so they’ll have options this summer and I assume they’ll land one big fish. I agree they’re not as savvy as old man buss and time will tell
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:45 pm to
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Kyrie is most likely to go to NY than LA but either of which punctures the whole Boston deal. KD will go either the same but if your premise is his disdain for the media then LA is the better fit than NY. Boogie is also the other likely option there being that GS can’t resign him. Bottom line is I believe Boston deals falls apart if Kyrie leaves which is looking more and more likely than what it was at the beginning when he said he would resign this summer. So then what’s left is NY who has to get a top 3 pick and be willing to deal it. Mainly the #1 pick for Zion. And while yes Morant and RJ are really good they don’t appear to be close to the prospect that Zion is so why would you give up AD for that and Knox and a pick.




KD not to LA has nothing to do with their media. For someone looking down on everyone here as a bunch of no-nothing Pels homers, you certainly seem to miss a lot in your enlightened NBA world.

KD truly thought winning in GS would anoint him the best in the league, it hasn't. Between his conference today and the reporting in GS, it's clear he is thinking the only way to get that monkey off his back is going to be him winning on a not ready made championship team. So KD to play with Lebron ain't happening.

Boston deal may fall apart, but the NY deal is still better than the shite package the Lakers are offering, and a Clippers deal is about even keel. Which being the best offer that could possibly be had was originally the argument you wanted to make. That the Pels just fricked up by not taking the shite package that was so good you started to post to make sure you let everyone know. That nothing was going to come down the pipe better. You haven't really made a convincing case so far. On the Knicks alone I still take Ja or RJ over the lakers trash.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
74 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:45 pm to
Idk about every GM in the league but you wouldn’t get Knox, DSJ and Ja both PGs and while Knox does look promising let’s remember Ingram was also that promising matter of fact even more promising coming out of college. Ppl compared Ingram to KD and thought he would get there and he still may get close but doesn’t look that way. And while I get the lonzo hate a lot of bcuz his pops he’s was mentioned as potentially first team all defense before the injury and is a great passer and floor general and 3pt shooting and FT shooting should definitely be getting better with time.
Posted by Rjlsu85
Slidell
Member since Jun 2013
74 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:51 pm to
My point isn’t even about KD cuz he can go to New York and don’t think for a min that him wanting to so call win by himself will make him ignorant to the fact that he ain’t beating GS or a few other teams without a really good roster with another star. So he ain’t going to NY alone and if they were to trade the pick and Knox and DSJ to the pels well then who will they be left with to compete cuz just him and AD won’t get it done. And again clippers don’t have anything other than some of tier picks and veteran mid tier players. Only 1 young promising player in Shai. So what would you get from them for AD?
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