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re: The Orgeron Extension Talk: Why?

Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:40 pm to
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no, its not absolutely relevant.


Yes, it is. When we're talking about industry practice, introducing facts about how others have conducted business is 100% relevant.
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The SEC has become nothing more than Nick Saban and a bunch of people playing catch up. whether its the "lets hire a saban assistant" route (UGA, UT, aTm, USCe), or the "lets just not spend a ton of money because we want to wait til saban retires" (Ole Miss, Mizzou, Vandy, LSU) route. Saban killed the SEC.



I don't disagree with any of this, but that doesn't exactly refute my point either. One of the root causes may be Saban, but the end result is still the same.
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so what does that have to do with extending him 2 years into the 5 year deal that you just mentioned?

To avoid a coaching search. I know people like to assume there is no way Orgeron would ever leave with or without an extension and that no one else would hire him, but Alleva, like other ADs, is scared to take that risk. I mentioned Muschamp earlier. He was just extended 2 years through 2024. He was already signed through 2022. He was also given a raise and was already making $4.2MM/year. And this is after a 7-6 season and 22-17 over three years, following two straight losing years at Florida. Are there other schools looking to hire him right now? Are there other schools willing to pay him what USC is? Is he doing as well as Spurrier did before him? The answer to all those questions is no. Which goes back to my point that it has, in fact, become industry practice. I don't like it, but it is.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Whiskeyjack Del Rio
Duval
Member since Jan 2019
159 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:59 pm to
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I mentioned Muschamp earlier. He was just extended 2 years through 2024. He was already signed through 2022. He was also given a raise and was already making $4.2MM/year. And this is after a 7-6 season and 22-17 over three years, following two straight losing years at Florida. Are there other schools looking to hire him right now? Are there other schools willing to pay him what USC is? Is he doing as well as Spurrier did before him? The answer to all those questions is no. Which goes back to my point that it has, in fact, become industry practice. I don't like it, but it is.


you are comparing South Carolina football to LSU.

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I know you also used Odom as an example, as well as Butch Jones. but the truth of the matter is, this is *not* industry standard. there are 128 FBS programs. citing 3-4 examples, even if they all tend to be from the same conference, does not make it some sort of rule or axiom ADs must follow.
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