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Maurice Hampton will sign in February.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:48 am
According to an interview at one of the high school all star games (I think is the the UA IIRC).
He said the LSU coaching staff understands his potential to get drafted early to the MLB. Apparently the staff also understands the risk of losing that scholarship. Maurice said he is completely undecided of whether or not to accept an MLB offer or not and will make that decision with his family in June.
Reading between the lines is sounds like Maurice enjoys the game of football a little more than baseball but it might be too difficult to turn down that MLB money.
He said the LSU coaching staff understands his potential to get drafted early to the MLB. Apparently the staff also understands the risk of losing that scholarship. Maurice said he is completely undecided of whether or not to accept an MLB offer or not and will make that decision with his family in June.
Reading between the lines is sounds like Maurice enjoys the game of football a little more than baseball but it might be too difficult to turn down that MLB money.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:51 am to GumboPot
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Maurice Hampton will sign in February.
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Maurice said he is completely undecided of whether or not to accept an MLB offer or not and will make that decision with his family in June.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:51 am to GumboPot
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Reading between the lines is sounds like Maurice enjoys the game of football a little more than baseball
That's been my interpretation from reading his quotes over the past couple months.
That means the cost to buy him out of his football commitment just goes up. Which benefits both football and baseball.
MLB teams are increasingly risk averse. They might not want to spend the money to buy him out of football while he's still such a raw player.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:07 am to OppositeMan
Are you having trouble with the timeline?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:08 am to GumboPot
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Are you having trouble with the timeline?
Honestly, yes...he's signing in February or no?
Sorry for the apparent retardation...I'm on short sleep today.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:10 am to OppositeMan
There is no negative to him by signing in February. He can still choose to go baseball. So there’s no reason not to sign. The only risk is on LSUs side
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:12 am to ProjectP2294
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That means the cost to buy him out of his football commitment just goes up. Which benefits both football and baseball.
MLB teams are increasingly risk averse. They might not want to spend the money to buy him out of football while he's still such a raw player.
Interesting.
There is also the thought process that Maurice may be peaking in baseball and just at that tip of the iceberg in football. Playing a season or so for Mainieri will give Maurice more data to make the MLB/NFL decision in 3-4 years.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:12 am to X Carter Is Fast
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There is no negative to him by signing in February. He can still choose to go baseball. So there’s no reason not to sign. The only risk is on LSUs side
Oh...that's what it means?
I don't like that risk at all, and I hope we don't do it. We'll be likely to lose a scholly, if we do.
Are we planning on letting him sign in February, as of now?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:13 am to GumboPot
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There is also the thought process that Maurice may be peaking in baseball
You would be hard pressed to find any scout or analyst that feels that way.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:16 am to ProjectP2294
Hampton is a fringe 1st rounder/sandwich round at this point, it's pretty unlikely he ends up here, but a lot can happen from now till MLB draft time still. I wouldnt count him in though, you have to recruit like you're not getting him and I think O pretty much said as much for the 2 guys who didn't sign with us in December.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:17 am to OppositeMan
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Honestly, yes...he's signing in February or no?
Yes, he is signing in February.
MLB draft is in June. If he goes MLB LSU loses the scholarship.
The option for LSU is to rescind the offer and not risk losing the scholarship.
The good news is that LSU understands the risk and appears to feel good about the prospects of Maurice playing college football and college baseball instead of MLB AT THIS TIME. If not, LSU would have pulled the offer and saved the scholarship for another player that could be productive.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:19 am to thunderbird1100
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Hampton is a fringe 1st rounder/sandwich round at this point
Which only based on raw talent, not recent performance or price.
quote:It's entirely too early to say that.
it's pretty unlikely he ends up here
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:20 am to OppositeMan
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Oh...that's what it means?
Yes, it's exactly what happened with QB Zach Lee:
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A quick refresher: Lee is the former Tigers' quarterback (briefly) who signed with the program after a sterling prep career at McKinney High in the Dallas suburbs from 2007-09. His plan coming out of high school was to play both football and baseball at LSU, and his talent on those two playing fields made it projectable that he could have starred in both. Shortly after he graduated from high school, the Los Angeles Dodgers picked Lee with the 28th pick of the first round of the 2010 Major League Baseball Draft. Even that still didn't seem like a sure thing as far as him passing on LSU, though, because at the time, the family that owned the Dodgers was in the midst of a nasty, public divorce battle. So Lee, a 6-foot-4 fireballer oozing with potential in both sports, headed to Baton Rouge the day after he was drafted and began the offseason workout program with the football Tigers. When practice began in early August, he was on the field and taking snaps - including with the first team now and then - along with veterans Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee. "I felt comfortable there and had gotten to know guys pretty well," said Lee, who passed for 5,500 yards and 64 touchdowns in two seasons as the McKinney High starter. "You develop a bond pretty quickly. I was picking up the offense and felt like I would've had a chance to compete for the starting job."
Then things changed.
At the 11th hour before the draft deadline, the Dodgers offered Lee a $5.25-million signing bonus -- considerably inflated for a pick that deep in the 1st round -- and it was understandably an offer he couldn't refuse.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:22 am to thunderbird1100
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you have to recruit like you're not getting him and I think O pretty much said as much for the 2 guys who didn't sign with us in December.
So what you are saying is the O is keeping the offer out there to Maurice unless he finds another recruit who can use the scholly and eliminate the risk of losing it?
That would make sense to me. That scholarship is obviously fluid from now until signing day in February.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:23 am to OppositeMan
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I don't like that risk at all, and I hope we don't do it. We'll be likely to lose a scholly, if we do.
Are we planning on letting him sign in February, as of now?
Yes they will let him sign in February.
I don’t think it is that big of a risk. Yes you lose a signee for this class but he is a safety and LSU can find another quality safety next year to make up for him.
If he does come to LSU you have another good player at DB and a first round talent baseball player.
So basically you are risking one signee in a sport that allows you 25 a year for a chance to get a quality athlete that will help you in your two main sports on campus.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:27 am to TBoy@LSU
So many rules around recruiting and the MLB draft (and the bonuses paid out) have changed since Zach Lee that it's an extremely outdated example.
Hampton would have to be drafted in the top 10 to get the same bonus Lee got. And it would be more expensive to the team to do that now with bonus pools and the elimination of the deferral option that Lee got.
Zach Lee's bonus was split over 5 years because he signed a football LOI, that's not allowed any longer. You take the immediate hit to the bonus pool for that draft year (or lose that slot amount if you don't sign the kid) and you can only split the payment over 2 years (which doesn't have an effect on how much bonus can be paid overall).
Hampton would have to be drafted in the top 10 to get the same bonus Lee got. And it would be more expensive to the team to do that now with bonus pools and the elimination of the deferral option that Lee got.
Zach Lee's bonus was split over 5 years because he signed a football LOI, that's not allowed any longer. You take the immediate hit to the bonus pool for that draft year (or lose that slot amount if you don't sign the kid) and you can only split the payment over 2 years (which doesn't have an effect on how much bonus can be paid overall).
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:28 am to geauxtigers33
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Yes they will let him sign in February. I don’t think it is that big of a risk. Yes you lose a signee for this class but he is a safety and LSU can find another quality safety next year to make up for him. If he does come to LSU you have another good player at DB and a first round talent baseball player. So basically you are risking one signee in a sport that allows you 25 a year for a chance to get a quality athlete that will help you in your two main sports on campus.
Why not hold a scholarship open for him, and send him the paperwork after the MLB signing deadline?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:33 am to Clockwatcher68
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Why not hold a scholarship open for him, and send him the paperwork after the MLB signing deadline?
And if he goes pro after you hold the spot for him you still only have brought in 24 people from this signing class so what’s the difference? He is taking up a spot in the signing class LSU doesn’t lose that scholarship and they will give it to a walk on.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:38 am to GumboPot
Based on the guess they compare pretty closely as players, I would hope that if Christian Williams wants a spot and its down to him and Hampton they would take the bird in the hand and not turn someone like Williams away. That is assuming all goes well with the rest of the players we are recruiting and it comes down to them head to head.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:39 am to GumboPot
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MLB draft is in June. If he goes MLB LSU loses the scholarship.
LSU does not lose the scholarship. They lose a member of the signing class they will still have 85 scholarships but it will have to go to someone already on the team. Won’t be able to bring anyone new in.
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