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The Police State and Democratic Hypocrisy
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:02 am
How can the Democrats on this site cheer the Mueller probe's heavy-handedness? Using manipulative and deceptive tactics to obtain process crime charges and then leveraging that to get a bigger fish is a hallmark of an authoritarian state. Threatening to go after people's families in order to obtain cooperation is a hallmark of an authoritarian state. You talk about Trump as if he's a dictator, but a gang of prosecutors using incarceration as a tool to achieve a political end is what actual fascism looks like.
And how can any supposed progressive support these kind of tactics against Trump's people when they are the very types of methods used against poor black and latino kids every day? This is the kind of shite that results in the mass incarceration you claim to oppose! How do we even begin to engage in criminal justice reform when the very type of tactics that need to be reformed, by both law enforcement and prosecutors, are celebrated by those who claim to love the poor and oppressed?
And how can any supposed progressive support these kind of tactics against Trump's people when they are the very types of methods used against poor black and latino kids every day? This is the kind of shite that results in the mass incarceration you claim to oppose! How do we even begin to engage in criminal justice reform when the very type of tactics that need to be reformed, by both law enforcement and prosecutors, are celebrated by those who claim to love the poor and oppressed?
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:07 am to SCLibertarian
Just give your guns to these people. They have your best interests in mind.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:11 am to SCLibertarian
Perhaps it’s that you don’t know what tactics are being used. You’re trusting the word of someone who lies to you dozens of times every day but you want to believe so badly that you’ve become convinced.
Incarceration is for a jury and judge to determine, not prosecutors. What’s the old saying? If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
And it’s especially ironic as the alt right screams “lock her up” and is giddy about military tribunals and gitmo.
It’s the age of disinformation from all sides that we are stuck in
Incarceration is for a jury and judge to determine, not prosecutors. What’s the old saying? If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
And it’s especially ironic as the alt right screams “lock her up” and is giddy about military tribunals and gitmo.
It’s the age of disinformation from all sides that we are stuck in
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:19 am to tiger4life69
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Perhaps it’s that you don’t know what tactics are being used. You’re trusting the word of someone who lies to you dozens of times every day but you want to believe so badly that you’ve become convinced.
Everyone on this Earth lies at some point or another. What's lost in this madness of media coverage is the way in which these charges are obtained.
If this were a state law enforcement matter and they wanted Flynn on the record saying something, he'd have likely been asked to come by the police station so that his statement could be on the record and recorded. Based on that, he would have never spoken to them without a lawyer, because he would have perceived the conversation to be quasi-criminal in nature.
With the FBI, there is no recorded interview. There is a 302. Flynn is a man who's had thousands of conversations with the FBI. Who was he to believe this one was any different? The manner and method in which this process crime was obtained is sickening, and it was done for one purpose and only one purpose: to try and flip Flynn so he'd give up evidence against the President, thus laying the groundwork for impeachment and removal.
This is not what a free society looks like. If you had told me during the Bush administration that liberals would support this I'd have said you were crazy. They've become neocons in the reflexive support for rogue prosecutions and a complete lack of transparency.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:25 am to SCLibertarian
The law has always worked like this!!! Trump and his “people” shouldn’t have broken the law to obtain the presidency.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:26 am to SCLibertarian
Some one explain the context to all these threads
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:26 am to lepdagod
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Trump and his “people” shouldn’t have broken the law to obtain the presidency.
How did Trump and his people break the law to obtain the Presidency?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:27 am to lepdagod
Clooneyisgod alter?
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:30 am to Nguyener
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Some one explain the context to all these threads
Michael Flynn's plea. While every media outlet is giddy about this because they think it hurts Trump, my argument is that Democrats cheering on the Mueller probe and its gang of heavy-handed prosecutors, all to obtain a political end, shows that they have zero desire for criminal justice reform or to better the lives of the minorities they claim to love, as the tactics used by Mueller to get Flynn are the very same that get poor black and latino kids sent to prison, resulting in mass incarceration and all the social depravity that comes with it.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:31 am to upgrayedd
Orange man bad
This whole thing shows they have absolutely no principles - just a thirst to see their overlords in power.
Muh institutions
Remember when they were skeptical of the FBI and CIA during the Bush years? They don’t
This whole thing shows they have absolutely no principles - just a thirst to see their overlords in power.
Muh institutions
Remember when they were skeptical of the FBI and CIA during the Bush years? They don’t
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:33 am to lepdagod
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The law has always worked like this!!! Trump and his “people” shouldn’t have broken the law to obtain the presidency.
What law was broken ?
I can't wait to hear this !
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:37 am to 93and99
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What law was broken ? I can't wait to hear this !
Don't hold your breath waiting to get an honest answer..
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:57 am to 93and99
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What law was broken ?
I can't wait to hear this !
They talked to someone from Russia, someone that's been to Russia, someone that can identify Russia on a map, or with Russian connections 87 times tho!! 87 times!
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:02 pm to SCLibertarian
Makes me want to fist fight a democrat
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:01 pm to 93and99
Well... the one’s Trump people are pleading guilty too obviously
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:02 pm to Jbird
Ni
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:04 pm to tiger4life69
Says an ahole who believes cnn
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