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re: Explain to me how Orgeron was an upgrade over Miles.

Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:44 pm to
So Oregeron gets the same results for a fifth of the price?

That's called an upgrade clown.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24458 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

2011 13-1 (I hate Bama)
2012 10-3 (6-2 SEC)
2013 10-3 (5-3 SEC)
2014 8-5 (4-4 SEC)
2015 9-3 (5-3 SEC) (three straight losses, bad losses too, Miles should have been fired after the Ole Miss game but Aleva has no guts.)
2016 Under Miles 2-2, Coach O as Intrim 6-2.

Hey a-hole would you like to put up the strength of schedule for each of those seasons? Hint: 2015 was 5. AND BTW THAT TEAM WOULD HAVE WON 10 frickING GAMES HAD McNeese wouldn’t have gotten cancelled. No way they would have fired a 10-3 coach. AND 2016. LSU played 4 legitimate teams with a pulse on defense and lost all 4 games including to UF and BAMA.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:53 pm to
I think Ree loves O more than LSU
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:00 pm to
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I think Ree loves O more than LSU


I assume you mean "I think thee loves O more than LSU." If that is true, no I don't, but he is the coach and LSU is not firing a coach after 2 full seasons. So, I hope he can get things moving forward. I was only answering how is it an improvement. In terms of wins, well we will see. If Coach O can win out and get to 11-2, that will be the best season since 2011. the last time LSU even had a chance to win 11 games was 2012, but LSU loss to Clemson in the bowl game.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:00 pm to
Miles left us with an balanced and depleted roster. With Miles we do not,get Burrow or Tracey or the kid kicking off. We lose to Miami Auburn Georgia Bama and probably Arkansas and TAM. We really would be 6 and 6.

Miles did not win 6 SEC games for 5 years. We are about to do it 2 years in a row.

With Miles we do not have Parrish coming in or Finley committed. We would not have three offensive tackles committed. Because he did not recruit offensive tackles.

When Orgeron took over there were more kickers on scholarship than linebackers
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:05 pm to
We have to rebuild the line of scrimmage. As miles left us with 11 Offensive lineman.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Explain to me how Orgeron was an upgrade over Miles.
Miles left us with an balanced and depleted roster. With Miles we do not,get Burrow or Tracey or the kid kicking off. We lose to Miami Auburn Georgia Bama and probably Arkansas and TAM. We really would be 6 and 6.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:09 pm to
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Miles lost to Ole Miss and Arkansas last three years. I see Orgeron is 4-0 last 2 years.


Miles was 1-2 against those two schools his last 3 years as the head coach
Here are their records for those years.

Arkansas:
2013: 3-9 LSU won that year
2014: 7-6 Arky won that year
2015: 8-5 Arky won that year

Ole Miss:
2013: 8-5 Ole Miss won that year
2014: 9-4 LSU won that year
2015: 10-3 Ole Miss won that year

Orgeron is undefeated against both programs since taking over in 2016

Here are their records those 3 years.

Arkansas:
2016: 7-6
2017: 4-8
2018: 2-8

Ole Miss:
2016: 5-7
2017: 6-6
2018: 5-5

In my opinion, it was totally unacceptable for Miles and his teams to lose to Arkansas in 2014 and 15. The losses to Ole Miss aren't quite as bad. Ole Miss was a pretty decent program under Freeze those 3 years. In Miles last 3 full season, Arkansas was a combined 18-20. Ole Miss was a combined 27-12.

Since 2016, Arkansas has a combined record of 13-22 and Ole Miss is 16-18.

Arkansas was little better during Miles last 3 years and Ole Miss was considerably better.

But the past 3 season, both those programs have been dumpster fires.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:09 pm to
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Miles had clearly a team who was on the way DOWN. We saved the 2016 season, we shouldn't have been that competitive in the SEC that year


Let's not overlook the first line of the OP, where I said I believed Miles needed to go.
Posted by Wheaux
San Diego
Member since Jul 2018
1748 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:10 pm to
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Who else was interested? How much were they wanting? $100 million?
What a dumbass response.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17843 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:15 pm to
LSU has lost to Alabama three years in a row - just like Miles, but LSU has beaten Arky the following week three years in a row - unlike Miles.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:15 pm to
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the players LOVE coach O,


They loved Les also. Remember when they carried him off the field, in what was supposed to be his last game?
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:16 pm to
quote:


So Oregeron gets the same results for a fifth of the price?

That's called an upgrade clown.


I'm sorry. I didn't realize our goal was to get the same results for a cheaper price. If that's the case, then mission accomplished.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3518 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:16 pm to
so you're litmus test for coaching competence is arkansas after we have been made irrelevant for the season by Bama? I though it was beating bama, wining championships ect. which Miles has at least done, O has never beaten bama and probably never will in his career.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:18 pm to
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LSU has lost to Alabama three years in a row - just like Miles, but LSU has beaten Arky the following week three years in a row - unlike Miles.


Well, Miles was 3-0 against Florida his last 3 seasons, while O is 1-2.

See, how I can cherry pick as well?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

When Orgeron took over there were more kickers on scholarship than linebackers




Some of you knuckleheads ought to do a little research before posting idiotic crap like this.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:30 pm to
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I know Ree loves O more than LSU


FIFY

And I'd argue that ree even loves LSU. He's only on the rant because of his love for o.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:35 pm to
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And I'd argue that ree even loves LSU. He's only on the rant because of his love for o.


Fact
Posted by LSUMIKEVVX
Member since Sep 2018
500 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:38 pm to
Hey Buster Mioes had a few good years hung around way too long. Miles cannot even sniff out the wofford job
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27884 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:40 pm to
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mhc4tigers

Congratulations, you hit all of the make believe talking points in one post. Setting a new standard!
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