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Investment Strategy for 50 year-old

Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:42 am
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3068 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:42 am
I had a coworker approach me seeking advice for what to do with 180k (post-tax) that's about to come into his possession through some property he's selling. I'm 26 so I feel like my outlook on investing is different from that of a 50 yo. I'm reading up on investment strategies for people 50+ as I'd like to help him out if possible but would appreciate any input/advice. I would like to at least be able to help him out in general objectives/strategy with maybe some funds to look into and can at least speak to what I'm doing but, like I said, I feel like there's a difference between being an investor at 26 vs 50.

I would assume that he has his home paid off, but has little-to-nothing for retirement.

EDIT: I spoke with him and got a little more information:
-He wants this money to go towards retirement which he has 12 years till (I assume he has little-to-nothing saved currently).
-He's got 6 yrs left on his mortgage at $420/month.
-He doesn't really have any kids he needs to worry about supporting with this money.
-His primary hobby he'll maintain when he retires is traveling the US on his motorcycle.

TIA
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 11:45 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20524 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:54 am to
Without knowing more of his situation itsnhard to say but I’m guessing he doesn’t have a lot in the stock market if he is coming to you.

I would disagree with the fact he is 50 and being different. If he is healthy, he is most likely going to live into his 80s. That’s 30 more years. There’s no reason to go ultra conservative that young.
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3696 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:54 am to
There are just so many missing variables it's hard to give any advice. Here an example of a few things needed:

- Does he have any debt
- Income level
- assets other than home/car
- Married, kids?
- Educational Planning
- Goals/preference in trade offs from working longer to spending more in retirement, leaving a legacy
- Experience with investments
- Level of risk/volatility willing to take
- Time frame for this investment
- Need for liquidity?
- etc, etc, etc

Posted by African Japanese
Member since Jul 2018
364 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:05 am to
I would love to hear what your approach is for yourself as I am 26 as well looking to invest in the market. I have a roth ira with about 15k in cash that can go into market and a robinhood account that i plan to finance $500 a month for dollar cost averaging. Let me know if you are willing to share what you are looking to invest in or what your plan is at our age.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

I have a roth ira with about 15k in cash that can go into market and a robinhood account that i plan to finance $500 a month for dollar cost averaging. Let me know if you are willing to share what you are looking to invest in or what your plan is at our age.
Now I'm assuming you've already maximized the of the various retirement opportunities (Roth, 401k--especially to get the employer match, etc.), and there isn't any high interest debt that could be paid off.

Anyways, it looks like you're using Robinhood as a long-term investment tool instead of short-term holds and quick trades. If so, then I would recommend using M1 Finance for long term investing instead, and Robinhood for short-term positions.

Both M1 and Robinhood have zero fees, although M1 Finance trades occur once a day at the start of the day, which makes Robinhood more ideal for short-term positions and day trading.

On the other hand, M1 Finance is better for investing since you can create a portfolio with "pies" within that portfolio which allows you to automatically invest (and reinvest dividends) as allocated by the pies and portfolio, and the funds are allocated to ensure that targets remained balance (essentially rebalancing with every trade). In addition, it allows you to buy fractional shares of stocks and ETF's, and offers various pre-designed pies for a bunch of investing strategies (income, growth, risk tolerance, hedge fund holdings, etc.). Finally, once your taxable account reached $25,000, you can borrow up to 35% of the account's value with a low interest (currently 3.75%) line of credit.

So in summary, if you're going to invest in the market with taxable accounts, then I would recommend Robinhood for short-term positions and M1 Finance for long-term investments.
Posted by player711
Member since Jun 2006
285 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 10:05 pm to
We are taught risk equals reward, but that Is not true. There are things out there that are low risk and can be above average growth. However, if the money is after-tax, he may want to put it in something that to where he can get an income every month to help them pay down any debt liabilities or he can look at growing up in a tax advantage manner. It really depends on each individual situation.
Posted by African Japanese
Member since Jul 2018
364 posts
Posted on 9/19/18 at 11:01 pm to
Wow this app is incredible, thank you for the suggestion.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3068 posts
Posted on 9/20/18 at 6:24 am to
I have a 6% match from my employer for my 401b that I make sure I contribute the full amount. I also try to max out my roth IRA with Vanguard (although I probably get ~4k in it annually with my current salary). My roth is comprised of VFFVX(64%) and VTSMX(36%) and my 401 is OSMAX(91%) and VFIAX(9%). I'll likely change up my holdings in my roth at some point in the near future and transition away from that VFFVX and get into some tech and real estate etfs.

In my brokerage I have a couple different etfs:
VCLT(8%)
VEA(33%)
VGT(25%)
VOO(9%)
VYM(25%)
Posted by African Japanese
Member since Jul 2018
364 posts
Posted on 9/20/18 at 9:14 am to
Appreciate it. Do you have a recommendation on the best day to have $100 go in weekly if using this app. I dont know if there is a better day than others with the way the app buys at the beginning of the day. I did 15% ultra agressive general investing and like 85% random stocks like amazon, apple, etc.. just in little chunks.
Posted by j4lsu
Pineville
Member since Aug 2006
2936 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:56 am to
i was following this thread; and was just curious if anyone had any updated advice after the edit of the OP from 9-20 with more info???
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