re: Some observations on today's Russian indictments

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No mention of GRU having hacked voter databases, voter rolls, stealing voter information on 500,000 Americans from unnamed SOS sites, or having hacked a voting machine software manufacturer? Did you omit all this because it doesn't fit your agenda or because you just copied this from some right wing rag?

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From the bastion of right wing news that is CBS News:

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Rosenstein said the 12 defendants are all members of the Russian intelligence arm GRU, and attempted to interfere with the 2016 presidential election by "spear phishing" volunteers and employees of Hillary Clinton's campaign. By allegedly doing this — tricking staffers into clicking on emails from rogue accounts — they were able to steal usernames and passwords, eventually hacking into the networks of the Democratic National Campaign Committee and Democratic National Committee. The GRU, Rosenstein said, created and controlled the groups D.C. Leaks and Guccifer 2.0., which in 2016, posted thousands of emails from Democratic party officials.

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Yeah we saw that, what's your point?

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Why it isn't being mentioned on this board?

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Well probably because the proggies are all wrapped up in we got Trump now, and the fact RR said no votes were changed because of it. Legislation is moving now to strengthen said state elections systems.

TRUMP BETTER CANCEL HIS POOOTIN MEETING OR ELSE HE IS FOR SURES A KGB AGENT.

So the DNC employed people dumb enough to be victims of online scams? That's on them.

Also, Obama was the chief executive at all times pertinent, with the most sophisticated intelligence apparatus in the history of the world at his disposal to help his own political party. Again, that's on them.

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Also, Obama was the chief executive at all times pertinent, with the most sophisticated intelligence apparatus in the history of the world at his disposal to help his own political party. Again, that's on them.

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Indeed.

The U.S. government under Obama knew what the Russians were doing. Obama was warned repeatedly by Eastern European governments that Russia was meddling in their own elections. And while Latvian elections don’t exactly rank high on the list of an American president’s priorities, the White House could have guessed what the Russians were gearing up to do — and should have sent them a forceful message to knock it off. Obama apparently issued a direct warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin when they met in person in September 2016, but it came too late and had little effect.

Instead it looks like there was barely any deterrence from the Obama administration — and that’s on him. By the time Wikileaks was starting to make waves in the presidential election with suspiciously timed email leaks, the response from the Obama administration was too weak and too late to stem the tide of false information.

After the surprise result of Nov. 8, 2016, Obama shifted to damage control mode and addressed Russia’s disinformation campaign head on with sanctions. But even then he soft-pedalled—in announcing the sanctions, he conflated Russia’s interference in U.S. elections with the harassment of U.S. diplomats in Russia (which goes on all the time), thus downplaying the meddling role of Russia in the election.

In fairness to Obama, he had reasons to hesitate. Hillary Clinton looked poised to win the election, right up until the election results began rolling in. Why needlessly politicize an election that looked like it would withstand Russia’s disinformation campaign? Why call into question the legitimacy of a central tenet of democracy—arguably THE central tenet of democracy—when it looked like the American people would overcome the challenge? LINK

Well said.