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I then explained that was what she was callings sexual assault, and pointed out again that it was merely her accusation. You stated that AS FACT.

Unless you're now going to back away from that statement, I'd say that's a fairly good indication you had made up your mind as to whether or not she was telling the truth, and it seems clear that what was driving your belief was a personal dislike of the guy as a entertainer.

But, feel free to spin the above if you want I guess.

You could quote me in context, instead of claiming that I said that a statement was a fact. The part of her statement where she claims that he had been "starfishing" her had not been posted to the board. I was pointing out the portion of her allegation that would fall under emotional abuse.

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This entire situation seems to deal with emotional abuse.

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It does, but how do we define "emotional abuse"?

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ME: Doing your business on a woman as she lays there crying seems to fit in there.

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YOU: No, that's what she described as sexual assault...and I'd pretty much agree.

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Nice anecdote, but that's not what I asked for, and don't think that's what happened with Hardwick.

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ME: It's exactly what she claims happened.

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Am I missing something? Please point out where she said anything that inferred that he did this: "Doing your business on a woman as she lays there crying seems to fit in there."

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ME: Here: LINK

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Thanks. That info wasn't included in the article included in the OP for some reason.

If you post the entire conversation, you see that I said, "It's exactly what SHE CLAIMS happened." I clarified that I was not stating a fact but that it was her claim.

Please search again for where I said that he "sexually assaulted" her (your words).

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Posted by GeauxTigerTM

Member since Sep 2006

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Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:14 pm to Fewer Kilometers

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Please search again for where I said that he "sexually assaulted" her (your words).

Oh, you never did. I was claiming that you were insinuating he was guilty based solely on her account. What you were attempting to do there was to prove to SUB that's what she was claiming was emotional abuse since he had not seen that part of her article.

I pointed out that you were wrong...that in fact THAT was what she was describing as sexual assault and that it mattered, because THAT was the headline making it's way around and what would ultimately cost him his reputation.

Further, you seemed to spend much of the thread trying to spin why the accusations were bad, while not bothering to come out and say the most important thing about them, which was to taken the "wait and see" road, but you felt that it was important to trash the guy from post 2, and you seem to have done it simply because you don't find him entertaining. Honestly, that level of intellectual dishonesty is kind of part of the problem here.

I mean, at least the wrong headed feminists who are insisting we need to "believe the woman" have what they consider to be an important agenda. Your take just seems to be born of both laziness and some kind of weird jealousy or something over the fact that this guy has some sort of nerd cred you think he doesn't deserve.

For my part, I've tried to be honest in that I enjoy his podcast. While I don't think I leaned toward believing him because I like that aspect of what he does, I do think I leaned towards believing him because I've been exposed to what he seems to think about things for a very long time and her account did not seem to jive with any of that. You seemed to lean toward believing her because you dislike him, but not based on anything else.

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