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re: Chris Hardwick #metooed in a big way.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:16 am to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:16 am to GeauxTigerTM
I just don't feel any sympathy for the guy. Even if every unnamed source that speaks badly about him and says, "yeah, what she's saying... that sounds exactly like Chris" is a disgruntled former employee... why does he have all of these disgruntled former employees? It's not a case of "why did this happen to such a nice guy". It's more, "He's an arse but he doesn't deserve this."
Even his friends and family are giving "I'm processing this but love Chris" statements. If I was his best friend and knew he wouldn't do this stuff I'd be screaming it.
He just comes across as a creepy guy, and his penchant for dating/marrying women with family pedigrees doesn't help.
Hardwick and Dykstra are both attention whores. If the truth is somewhere in the middle, he still comes out looking pretty bad.
Even his friends and family are giving "I'm processing this but love Chris" statements. If I was his best friend and knew he wouldn't do this stuff I'd be screaming it.
He just comes across as a creepy guy, and his penchant for dating/marrying women with family pedigrees doesn't help.
Hardwick and Dykstra are both attention whores. If the truth is somewhere in the middle, he still comes out looking pretty bad.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:23 am to Fewer Kilometers
If the texts were indeed Facebook messenger texts, you’d think she’d have some pretty scathing stuff from him for years if he is the monster she says he is. Unless he was just smart and didn’t put anything like that in texts.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:25 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Even his friends and family are giving "I'm processing this but love Chris" statements. If I was his best friend and knew he wouldn't do this stuff I'd be screaming it.
You can't defend anyone in this current climate. Look at what happened to the even the moderate takes in the news. People get eviscerated for saying "We should wait and see before believing accusations."
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:03 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I just don't feel any sympathy for the guy
I feel sympathy for ANYONE who is tried and convicted in the public arena where they can lose virtually everything of value to them without the benefit of being able to defend themselves, and that's regardless of whether or not I like them. Kind of strange, honestly, that that might factor in for anyone.
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Even if every unnamed source that speaks badly about him and says, "yeah, what she's saying... that sounds exactly like Chris" is a disgruntled former employee... why does he have all of these disgruntled former employees?
What constitutes all? If they are unnamed, how do we even know they exist? How much does the PC bullshite of "believe the woman" play into their complaining about him as a boss after the fact?
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Even his friends and family are giving "I'm processing this but love Chris" statements. If I was his best friend and knew he wouldn't do this stuff I'd be screaming it.
You can't be this blind to the current state of affairs, can you? In a sense, I agree with you. But let's take a guy like Matt Mira. He's got a gig on the writing staff for The Goldbergs and is hosting his own After Show for Star Trek Discovery and he's got his own slew of podcasts. Let's just say that Matt knew FOR A FACT that Hardwick wasn't the kind of guy Dykstra portrayed him as, what do you think would have become of him if he was out there defending him the day of? For frick's sake, you literally had frickheads sending messages to Mira, Jonah Ray, Will Wheaton, etc DEMANDING they disavow the guy before he'd even responded in public. You don't think they'd have gone after HIS employers to attempt to link him to this for defending him...?
I think it's naive to assume they were quiet because they knew him to be guilty of something when all can see that they'd have been viciously attacked themselves for even poking their heads out of the sand. My guess, they all talked to him personally behind the scenes (like you'd assume your own friends would have done if you had been accused of something like this) and he told them to stay out of it until things cleared, or to at least let them know he understood why they needed to sit back and not get involved. That's speculation, but it would be plausible.
Personally, I'd have liked them to say something to the effect of, "I've known Chris for many years and what she described does not sounds like the person I know, but I'm willing to hear her out and wait for Chris to respond before either taking her side of defending him." All of them, to a person, would have been EVISCERATED for that stance.
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He just comes across as a creepy guy
Sounds like an assumption, but you're entitled to it I guess.
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and his penchant for dating/marrying women with family pedigrees doesn't help
I wouldn't exactly call dating a girl who's dad worked at ILM a pedigree.
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Hardwick and Dykstra are both attention whores
Well, yeah.
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If the truth is somewhere in the middle, he still comes out looking pretty bad.
If the truth is that she fabricated or even stretched the truth about the sexual assault stuff, I'd say she needs jail time. that's the part that has cost him, and she'd better damn well have some evidence for it at this point.
See...we don't agree, but we can have a conversation anyway.
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