I'm still questioning whether or not they can prove that he even made an attempt. He got as close as you can get, but where the NCAA is drawing the line is presumptuous.

If you take their side, you have to say that once Kristian held the cup from the outside source, he was already pouring the urine into his sample cup. I say that he changed his mind and altered his course. Now he may have folded under the pressure of knowing that he was being walked up on, but he still folded and then somehow gave his own valid sample which came up clean for PEDs.

If he was truly caught in the act, a reasonable protocol would have been for the administrator to complete the testing form at that time as "tampered," and an actual sample should never been submitted to UCLA for testing.

This shite ain't over with unless the Fultons have an awful attorney.

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Posted by Capo

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Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:28 pm to orthogeek

Should be some wiggle room for negotiation.

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Posted by MOT

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Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:29 pm to orthogeek

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I'm still questioning whether or not they can prove that he even made an attempt. He got as close as you can get, but where the NCAA is drawing the line is presumptuous.

He was seen pouring the “sample” from a bottle into the beaker designated for his piss, and poured it out when approached. If that isn’t enough, no one in the Fulton family or on the LSU side is denying that’s what happened.

You’re better off making an argument that the policy sucks and they should just do us a favor and change the punishment mid flight, instead of questioning whether or not he broke the rule.

ETA: Did you even read the article?

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If you take their side, you have to say that once Kristian held the cup from the outside source, he was already pouring the urine into his sample cup

The article, which is heavily slanted to LSU’s cause, even states that’s exactly what he was doing.