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re: Random statistics for LSU baseball to-date

Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Drakeo1990
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:47 pm to
Better than I thought got 5 out of 8


Disclaimer-I count 5 and 8 as correct since I got half right and wasn't informed there were two answers.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126963 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:50 pm to
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All this really means is that GOATbrera is legit.
Agreed.

Here's a brief comparison between Alex Bregman and Daniel Cabrera for their freshman season (keeping in mind that Bregman's freshman season stats are for 67 games played in and Cabrera's stats are for 50 games played in to-date):

Batting average:
Bregman - .369
Cabrera - .337

Home Runs:
Bregman - 6
Cabrera - 8

Slugging %:
Bregman - .546
Cabrera - .596

On-base %:
Bregman - .417
Cabrera - .438

Stolen bases/attempts:
Bregman - 16/17
Cabrera - 1/2

RBI:
Bregman - 52
Cabrera - 46

Doubles hit:
Bregman - 18
Cabrera - 15

Triples hit:
Bregman - 7
Cabrera - 2

Walks:
Bregman - 24
Cabrera - 31

Times Struck Out:
Bregman - 25
Cabrera - 30

Cabrera, barring injury, just might be good at baseball.....
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Whataburger
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:54 pm to
Last dates of games per season at the Box going back to 2007:

May 13, 2007 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 9, Florida 4
Jun 09, 2008 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 21, UC Irvine 7
Jun 06, 2009 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 5, Rice 3
May 22, 2010 Baton Rouge, La. Miss State 2, LSU 1
May 15, 2011 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 15, Tennessee 5
Jun 10, 2012 Baton Rouge, La. Stony Brook 7, LSU 2
Jun 08, 2013 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 11, Oklahoma 1
Jun 02, 2014 Baton Rouge, La. Houston 12, LSU 2
Jun 07, 2015 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 6, ULL 3
Jun 11, 2016 Baton Rouge, La. Coast Car 4, LSU 3
Jun 11, 2017 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 14, Miss St 4
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:56 pm to
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May 15, 2011 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 15, Tennessee 5
quote:

May 13, 2007 Baton Rouge, La. LSU 9, Florida 4
I blame leap years.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:57 pm to
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earliest closure date since 2007.
And since this was your post and 2011 ended on the same date, 2011 is technically correct.
Posted by LSUGoose
Red Stick via St James Parish
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Here's a brief comparison between Alex Bregman and Daniel Cabrera for their freshman season


Bregman and Cabrera are both really good, but in comparing stats you also need to take in mind that Cabrera is playing with the "new ball" (flush seams). It has increased the power stats of college baseball.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Bregman and Cabrera are both really good, but in comparing stats you also need to take in mind that Cabrera is playing with the "new ball" (flush seams). It has increased the power stats of college baseball.
Not nearly to the extent that some thought it would. And when comparing two players directly for just one season, the difference is close to negligible.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126963 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:04 pm to
Good point, Goose.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:11 pm to
This is our 4th year with the new ball.

2013 - 68 games; 128 doubles; 47 HRs
2014 - 63 games; 117 doubles; 41 HRs
2015 - 66 games; 146 doubles; 51 HRs *New ball in play for championships
2016 - 66 games; 110 doubles; 46 HRs
2017 - 72 games; 120 doubles; 69 HRs *Deichmann w/ 19 + more games
2018 - 53 games: 102 doubles; 41 HRs


And obviously, the team makeup itself is relevant. '13, '15, and '17 were by far our best hitting teams during this period. Even on a "per game" basis, the change isn't much and tough to normalize as personnel changes.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7577 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:38 pm to
this
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Grounded into Double Plays: 45 (Worst in SEC)

completely negates this
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Team Strike Outs (our hitters who have been struck out): 305 (Best in SEC)

especially when considering this
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SAC Bunts: 29 (3rd in SEC)
Posted by buzz1954LSU
Church Point, La.
Member since Nov 2009
631 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:40 pm to
Nope.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126963 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:44 pm to
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completely negates this
Nah. Maybe "partially."
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20338 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:49 pm to
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Go back and check the dates on games played each season and get back to me........


Last home game in 2011 was May 15th, same date as yesterday.
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
5471 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:50 pm to
Well, I want to believe, but with Nick Storz never making it back and developing, Labas possibly out, Bryce still out, Smith still out, we've got too many liabilities. I kept hoping we'd have all those guys back and that we could possibly win the SEC TOURNAMENT with 40 wins overall and host the 1st round, but I had to let that go. I'll be rooting hard regardless.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70537 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:51 pm to
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completely negates this


It really doesn't. A batted ball provides opportunity for a positive outcome. There is no positive outcome on a strikeout.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126963 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:04 pm to
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It really doesn't. A batted ball provides opportunity for a positive outcome. There is no positive outcome on a strikeout.
True, especially when other SEC teams have only hit into 6-10 fewer DPs but have struck out an additional 125+ times more than LSU.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7577 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:14 pm to
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other SEC teams have only hit into 6-10 fewer DPs but have struck out an additional 125+ times more than LSU.


Well if theres that big of a difference between LSU and the rest of the SEC in strikeouts then I stand corrected. But generally speaking double plays absolutely kill teams that can't hit for power. Look at the Bama game Friday night for example. We kept getting the lead off man on and kept hitting into DPs and couldn't get any runs across. Hell we somehow even hit into a 6-4-2 DP with Slaughter coming home if I remember right. If Bama doesn't implode later in that game and we lose that series our regional hopes are in desperation mode. Leading the league in double plays when you're also near the top in sacrifices does not look good and we don't have the power to make up for it. Not to mention 1 out > 2 outs.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7577 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:32 pm to
I'd expect us to go through some more growing pains early on next year on the mound as well. Walker will be rusty after a year off and I'm not sure I'd put Friday night pressure on him. Same with Storz, I don't believe he pitched much his senior year of HS either so I doubt they'll ask him to be a year long starter his first year back. Hilliard will probably work Fridays, hopefully Peterson takes the Saturday spot with Labas on Sunday. However it shakes out, there's a wealth of talent here that'll be very good once everyone settles in.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24459 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 5:51 pm to
OPS and OPB are better measures of hitting than BA. It accounts for plate discipline and putting pressure on the opposing pitcher.
Taking that into consideration, I would bet last years team dwarfs this one in OBP - especially the last month of the season.

You have 1 (Cabrera) of the top 9 hitters with an OB% over 400. In 2017 there were 5 over.

You can’t look at BA. We are far worse at hitting than last year with out top 9.

And couple that with pitching and defense both being down, it means this team is blah.



This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
2898 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:16 pm to
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Team ERA: 4.51 (12th in SEC)


Average runs given up in away games is about 6.27.

I couldn't find the exact ERA splits for home/away so I estimated per game.

quote:

Team Batting Avg: .293 (4th in SEC) For reference LSU finished last season batting .289.


.226 Batting Avg in road games.





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