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re: Should Virtual mass shooter trainers be banned?

Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by ca0811
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:58 pm to
This ridiculous argument again?

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:59 pm to
No.

quote:

And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” But Peter said to him, “Explain the parable to us.” And he said, “Are you also still without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.” -Matthew 11:10-20


Millions of people can play violent video games and never harm anyone. It's a heart problem.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 12:59 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:00 pm to
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I think I might blow off work early for that new Stellaris DLC



That's one of Paradox's releases that I haven't played yet. I mostly play EUIV or Hearts of Iron IV - CK2 used to be fantastic but the recent DLCs have made it so, so strange.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141076 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Ban fingerbanging


Oh hell no.

ETA: Toddy, someone will have to explain that to you as I don't think you kind does that. I hope not anyway.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:01 pm to
Sunset Invasion was like the 2nd or 3rd DLC it's always been strange
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:01 pm to
CS is nostalgia. i remember doing it way back when in high school

but i only play when i know i have like 15-20 minutes of boredom coming up

i play CS_Italy and snipe or one of the gun game servers to just go around and kill and be killed
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:02 pm to
I want you to explain how a keyboard and mouse or a controller is the same as shooting a real gun.

Maybe there can be an argument for lifelike games desensitizing the person playing. But that's still a stretch for the average person. Considering how much violent media is consumed.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55523 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:02 pm to
You could just turn off Sunset. I think the last one I bought was Charlemagne or Ways of Life.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4292 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Yea, I recall that. I know it fit into the plot well, but it didn't sit well with me at all. I know it wasn't real (duh) but I just had my character walk around and I never fired any shots. Still progressed the plot all the same.

There was an option when you started playing if you wanted to play that section or skip it.

I remember they caught so much hell for that. I know its a video game but damn, how did that walk through at the developer go.
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
24910 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Should Virtual mass shooter trainers be banned?


Nope, it's my right to virtually kill everyone on the server. I used to play CS competitively. Still mess around on CSGO every once in a while.

We should also do away with movie restrictions and adult site restrictions for youngins. Our rights! Why should our rights begin at 18?
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22715 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

I want you to explain how a keyboard and mouse or a controller is the same as shooting a real gun. Maybe there can be an argument for lifelike games desensitizing the person playing. But that's still a stretch for the average person. Considering how much violent media is consumed.


Gets them used to viewing people as targets...not all training is to develop proficency in a skill..
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Gets them used to viewing people as targets...
BAN DODGEBALL
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73285 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:09 pm to
Yep, and you could skip it or not participate if manipulating code on a computer system really bothered you that much.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24910 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

I want you to explain how a keyboard and mouse or a controller is the same as shooting a real gun. Maybe there can be an argument for lifelike games desensitizing the person playing. But that's still a stretch for the average person. Considering how much violent media is consumed.


Desensitization.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73285 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:11 pm to
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Desensitization.


Ban the Internet. Ban movies and television. Ban the news. Ban leaving the house.

Ban everything.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135136 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:11 pm to
And now the left is turning into the 1990s conservatives yet again
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22715 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:13 pm to
It’s for the children. They deserve to live in a virtual world free of violence.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:14 pm to
Also kinda surprised you haven't tried Stellaris

There's an interface explicitly for giving different races in your empire different civil rights
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
135136 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:15 pm to
Penn and Teller did a pretty good bullshite episode on this
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