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re: When otherwise good movies jump the shark...

Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:17 pm to
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As much as I love the LOTR movies - Legolas single handedly taking out the big elephant (oliphant?) was a bit much.

You have a lot of leeway with fantasy but even then you can go too far .... or at least farther than you should. I guess it just depends on the style and tone of the film.


LotR is high fantasy (as opposed to, say, GoT or the like) and that sort of thing is part of the genre. Notice how every single hero except for Boromir (and Boromir was 'fallen' when he betrayed the hobbits) went through orcs like they were Cabbage Patch Kids? They're essentially superhumans because that's how high fantasy works. Just so long as they don't do something impossible for their character -- none of them levitated and shot lightning bolts from their eyes, for instance -- they're going to get a lot of leeway.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:27 pm to
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They're essentially superhumans because that's how high fantasy works.


I disagree with this as it takes away from the drama to believe that the hero’s are essentially unstoppable. Why even try to avoid orcs and wargs if you’re superhuman?

I do understand and know that PJ specifically inserted hero moments for the characters. This was the only one that was specifically jarring to me (however I didn’t like the surfing on the shield but from tTT either).

I thought the tone of FOTR was perfect with the orc fights in Moria and at the end. The fellowship was obviously dominant but the characters appeared to be in peril. Legolas being that overwhelming in one scene made me think a battalion of elves could handle their whole army - which took away from the seriousness of the fight.

I hate to nitpick. Don’t get me wrong...I loved these movies...but this is just a pet peeve.
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