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re: Is there any strategy to survive a fall into water from a great height?

Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:59 pm to
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The sudden stop is the problem
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The longer you can slow down your momentum, the better.


So you're saying, If I jump out of a plane, but I can find some way of slowly falling, I may survive?



no, that's not what he's saying ...

but slowly falling would help in lieu of the length of impact ... probably preferable ...
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:07 pm to
Some dude on YouTube does high distance jumps. He aireates the water below to soften the landing. It is awesome.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 7:11 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:09 pm to
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Clench your butthole

Was coming say!

Learned the hard way jumping off the bridge over the Guadalupe in 99. 20+ feet will give you an enema if you're not careful.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:11 pm to
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from a great height it is like hitting concrete.

No it is not. If it was anything like hitting concrete, it wouldn’t matter how you dove into it.

Mythbusters even proved this. But just simple logic ought to tell you hitting water will never be as impactful as concrete. Might be fatal, but Jesus concrete can be fatal from 15 ft.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:24 pm to
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No it’s not. That’s a myth that makes no sense


I jumped from the high platform once at the a&m aquatic center. It’s 100% true. Felt like I jumped feet first into wet concrete
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:36 pm to
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I would recommend hitting back first as flat as possible to spread out the impact across as many broken bones as possible. Try not to ram a rib through your heart, or smash your skull. It would be nice to not ram your legs all the way up through your shoulders, too.


Those that have survived a sky diving accident where they impacted the ground while still at close to their terminal velocity usually managed to hit flat, as you said spreading the impact over the largest surface area.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Surface tension is not the issue. It's the massive amount of water your body needs to displace.




Actually wrong. I was a diver and they put bubbles in the water when you are learning a difficult dive because breaking up the surface makes the impact much less painful when you "smack" (hit the water wrong)
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:36 pm to
Knew a girl who was like 15. She went to jump off the bridge at night. She missed the water and hit the grass underneath. Laid there and died over about 8 hours until someone found her.

This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 8:38 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:40 pm to
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I would recommend hitting back first as flat as possible to spread out the impact across as many broken bones as possible. Try not to ram a rib through your heart, or smash your skull. It would be nice to not ram your legs all the way up through your shoulders, too


From everything I've read, you're better off trying to slow the fall down as much as possible. Landing on your back would be a terrible thing way to do that.

Water doesn't compress either but it's still considerably better than falling on concrete. The ideas of breaking the surface tension are useless unless you're falling into froth or something.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18891 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:20 am to
See the impact point? Not sure what you meant.

High dive record competitors were jumping into a huge tank at aquarium. There was nothing special about the point they hit other than the surface tension was being broken by sprayed water.

Maybe the effectiveness was bullcrap, but that was the justification for the spray. There is video on Youtube.

Wikipedia describes breaking the surface tension on world record attempts, too.


LINK
Posted by Theboot32
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:28 am to
Possum Kingdom?

They jump off the cliffs at hells gate there, pretty crazy
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:29 am to
How deep is the water?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:34 am to
Don’t jump
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:39 am to
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20+ feet will give you an enema if you're not careful.


I bet you liked it.
Posted by SECMAN16
Member since Nov 2010
125 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:58 am to
LINK

this is a link to a youtube video showing a pretty crazy high free fall into water.
Posted by Freezus22
Da Boot
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:02 am to
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:38 am to
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See the impact point? Not sure what you meant.
I always thought the jet sprays of water at diving venues were so the diver knew where the surface was and could prepare to hit the water. Otherwise, as they are dropping, all they see is the bottom of the pool because of the clarity of the water. They can't tell if they are five feet off the surface or fifteen feet. With the spray disturbing the surface, they can tell how close they are and when to prepare to enter.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:57 am to
But y'know, free colon cleanse.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18891 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:09 am to
I am sure that is part of the reasoning. The rest might be junk science.
Posted by theCrusher
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:15 am to
"Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend."

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