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This Arizona Police Officer thing is blowing up

Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:49 am
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:49 am
And I agree with outrage. Want to judge the audience here.

It was pretty much an execution.

I think it would be more than fair to say that I never want to interact with a police officer. Anywhere. Cookout, walking down the street, etc

The blue line is enough to murder an innocent man begging to just be cuffed
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15074 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:51 am to
What are you talking about? Want "thing"?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35685 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:57 am to
Protect and to Serve has become a baseless moniker because people aren't calling the police anymore.

Unless it's like some crazy home invasion. They will never find your car (if they ever look for it) and they will investigate you if they're at your door for some reason...you can say...I just got robbed and they'd say..."well where were you last night?" "Is this even your house?"

Chris Rock: "Oh lawdy, I just robbed my own house!"

The new Motto should be arrest and shoot...not protect and serve. Who are they serving? Their fellow officers that's all. That's all they care about is The Thin Blue Line.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18141 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:04 am to
Even when you murder them and kick your taser towards their dying body in effort to frame them, you only get 20 years. Our legal system that lets them slide is just as fricked as the actions we see.
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:09 am to
He was aquitted because apparently it appeared as if the guy was reaching for “something.” Tensions were already high because cops were responding to calls that the guy was waving a gun outside his hotel window. Obviously that situation could have been handled much better.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94910 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:36 am to
Cop was looking for a reason to kill him. He escalated the situation from the get go.

"If you fall, fall on your face or were gonna shoot you." It's a fricking ingrained reaction to put your hands down when youre falling.

"Cross your legs and crawl toward me"

At that point you're waddling on your knees. How many people can pull that off sober, much less drunk, crying and with 4 ARs pointed at you with a guy screaming he'll kill you.


The suspect is down and cooperative. They had every opportunity to move in on him. Or like most departments, they could have had him stand and walk backwards with his hands behind his head. Instead, this murderer created a situation where there was going to be no fluid movements for thr suspect and nearly guaranteed he was going to stumble and make a quick movement that startled a trigger happy cop.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 1:38 am
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
18897 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:38 am to
It's a tough call with this, the guy reached back to his pant waist after he was told to keep them out in front, but IIRC they said he was drunk, and most people would be very upset about a cop having a gun on them. Add to this that it appears he simply wanted to pull up his pants.
The number of shots was a bit excessive and the guy is crawling towards him and it can be seen he doesn't have a gun in his hand before he opens fire.
The line is very, very thin here
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45891 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:39 am to
Jesus, that is sick. That cop should be on death row for that. At minimum, he should never ever be in possession of a weapon, ever again.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:44 am to
This is what happens when you give a cuck/beta, 5'8", and 160lb loser arse pos an ar-15.

I hate trigger happy pussies.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3031 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:44 am to
What the hell was the guy reaching for????
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
18897 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 1:46 am to
I forgot about this. Officer that shot the guy had this on his gun. Not exactly a good thing to have and makes me question why this man was allowed to have this on his rifle. Department shouldn't have let someone that had this be an officer.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3521 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:45 am to
I side with the cop 99% of the time but not in this video. That was disturbing and that POS cop should be killed. Gives all good cops a bad name.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 4:29 am to
I’m as pro cop as a person can get and that is murder. It is inexcusable.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77436 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:36 am to
I've defended cops in the past but not this time...that cop should be put away from murder...he went beyond what is called for in his orders he was giving...seriously try doing everything is was asking this drunk guy to do sober...he had plenty of times he could have walked over and cuff the guy...

All he did was actually escalate the situation, he has no business being a cop and he should be serving life...
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:40 am to
This was murder plain and simple. I can’t believed the cop walked.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5535 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:49 am to
Dude reaches behind his right hip mid crawl? Kind of suspect? I might have capped his arse too! How hard is it to follow simple instructions in order to stay alive ?
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:00 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:04 am to
I'm going to post this here too.

This is much more problematic than this isolated event.

In case no one has said it yet:

The shooting officer had been on the force less than two years and he was given swat tactical gear and an AR15 and sent in as point man to a public hotel to lead a raid in a situation with no Intel.

That's it terrifyingly insane.

It takes 3-5 years and 2 separate training stages to become a licensed plumber in this county but with less than 2 years police training well give you an AR15 and set you loose on the public.

Forget the racial aspects and the did he out his hand behind his back nonsense. Just focus on how this situation clearly and precisely shows how grossly negligent and incompetent our police departments are.

Then consider the fact that his police chief and superintendent testified that he was a perfect example of their training and he followed it to a tee.

Further, the officer who literally (yes this is the correct use of that word) commanded the crying and drunken victim, who was begging for his life, to:

"put his hands straight in the air and cross his left ankle over his right ankle and then crawl on his knees while keeping his hands up and his ankles crossed while ignoring all instincts to balance himself and I'd he faultered or moved his hands he would be shot dead immediately"

Was also testified to be following department protocol effectively.
TL;DR:

I today's America you aren't qualified to unclog a toilet with 3 full years of plumbing training and apprenticeships, but you are completely qualified to handle an AR15 in a dangerous blind swat tactical event.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:07 am
Posted by NCAAFootballGenius
Member since Nov 2006
323 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:43 am to
he was not resisting arrest. The officer's instructions were complicated and completely unreasonable.

This was murder.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56575 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:57 am to
When did cops start shooting you for losing at Simon says, I woulda been confused as hell
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27979 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:17 am to
Dude, that drunk arse dude was pointing a RIFLE OUT HIS HOTEL WINDOW

That's why the police were called

He think reached for his waistband

If that cop was my father, I damn sure want him to shoot a drunk off his arse idiot, that is known to have a gun in his possession, and then reaches for his waistband when instructed to do nothing but crawl

I do not want my father/spouse to wait until they see the gun being pointed at them before they make that call

Because if that idiot was in my home, and reached for his waistband like that, I would drop his arse too
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