re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

You people use the lowest of the low tactics. Accuse people of doing exactly what you’re doing, go off topic anytime you’re wrong, repeat exactly what someone els said back to them, the “i know you are but what am i” move and of course flat out lies. You can’t deal with the fact that you have absolutely no proof to backup your criticisms so you ignore facts, try to twist reality or use double standard arguments that make you look like ignorant hypocrites. You pretend to know more football than coaches and administrators when the fact is 90% of you never played a down in your lives and none of you have ever coached or been involved in any type of football admin position. You make ignorant statements about something you know nothing about and you do it all with zero evidence to back your position. We’ve improved under O that’s a fact and as long as that continues he’s going to be the coach at LSU and all your crybaby tactics and lies can’t change that. What miserable lives you people have.