re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

I give O big time credit for turning this season around when it was all but assured that we were going to crash and burn in historic fashion.

But I still don't think he's a great coach.

For me (and probably a lot of other onlookers) he needs to do several more things before he has my trust.

1. Win the bowl game.
2. Finish out this year's recruiting class strong (Hold on to Marshall!!!!)
3. Make a strong hire to replace Canada if needed. (Obviously this does not mean Ensminger)
4. Implement and develop an actual threat at the QB position next year.
5. Win at least 10 (regular season) games in 2018.
6. Finish with a top 3 class for 2019.

These are all attainable, reasonable requests. If he fails to accomplish more than 1 of these he needs to be fired. How and when is tricky, but it won't get any better going forward if he cant do it now.