re: Gravy argument

your friends are retarded, we cook it taht way at the camp all the time. brown the meat really well to build up that sticky gradu at the bottom (the more the better for gravy), scrape it a bit to loosen it, add onions, bellpepper, celery, cook it all down and add a little bit of water. if you want it thicker, add a little cornstarch + water, but if you have good meat, you shouldn't need it - your trinity will create enough water. throw the lid on and cook it down a bit. voila

whipped up this round steak tonight