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JR Ball: The ‘T’ in TOPS stands for Texas

Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:09 am
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Should taxpayers be doling out largesse to students who bolt the state the minute their subsidized education is complete? Who cares if our kinda-best and sorta-brightest get a college degree in Louisiana if their employment eyes are upon Texas?



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Take LSU, for example, where, according to LSU Career Services, roughly 47% of the 2012 graduating class left the state. Let’s concede some of these graduates were not from Louisiana and drop the figure to 40%. Consider this: There were roughly 14,000 LSU students receiving a TOPS scholarship during the 2015-16 academic year and, based on percentages, some 5,600 left Louisiana for out-of-state jobs shortly after graduating. Again, based on stats, a big chunk of those educated went west to Texas.

Put simply: The concept of Louisiana taxpayers providing semi-free tuition to homegrown students drooling at the prospect of living, working and playing in Texas—or some other state—is hardly good public policy.


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Keep TOPS just the way it is now with this caveat: Those who leave the state within four years of graduation must repay all or a portion of the scholarship amount. Leave right after graduation and owe the full amount; do so after a year of working here and owe 75%; leave after two and it’s 50%; leave after three and you’re on the hook for 25%. If legislators want, offer a repayment plan charging interest, say 3%, over 10 years.




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Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:11 am to
I missed the tops gravy train by several years but he's not wrong. About half of the kids that we subsidize leave the state due to the lack of white collar jobs in LA.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:12 am to
Dumbest idea ever
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:12 am to
Culcha FTW
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3797 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:13 am to
Shite going to change when Amazon comes...
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by robertLSU
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
429 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:13 am to
Or maybe try making staying in the state not suck
Posted by ELLSSUU
Member since Jan 2005
7327 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:15 am to
So basically Root Cause is jobs are available in Texas that are not in Louisiana. So this guys solution is off base.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:16 am to
We don't produce enough jobs to soak up all the graduates.

Period.

The purpose of TOPS is to educate student. The end. It would be nice if they would stay here and pay taxes... but again... no jobs.

If you want to turn TOPS into a payback program, then do it for the people that don't graduate. That's the real waste
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:18 am to
Improve the state's economy, you stupid fricks
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:19 am to
Louisiana has nothing to offer college graduates.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:21 am to
A friend of mine in Mississippi got a similar type loan to become a teacher. Upon her certification she had to work in a public school in Mississippi to satisfy some of her loan requirements, but it wasn’t four or five years, it was more like two. Then she immediately moved to Georgia.

It’s not really a bad deal to not have loans, but if you can’t find a good position or have designs on going out of state after graduation, it can really put a hold on your life.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:21 am to
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Who cares if our kinda-best and sorta-brightest get a college degree...


I love passive-aggressive when it's done well.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79954 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:24 am to
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Those who leave the state within four years of graduation must repay all or a portion of the scholarship amount. Leave right after graduation and owe the full amount; do so after a year of working here and owe 75%; leave after two and it’s 50%; leave after three and you’re on the hook for 25%. If legislators want, offer a repayment plan charging interest, say 3%, over 10 years.


Yeah, good luck enforcing that.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53121 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:27 am to
It's good that college people leave for Texas

We don't need a bunch of elitist wusses in this state
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71515 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:35 am to
What is Louisiana offering me, a single young professional, to stay?

The infastructure blows, the taxes are going insane and will only go higher, race relations have created a powder keg in NOLA and BR, and there is no clear way how they are going to get out of the financial hole.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2023 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:39 am to
Funny that after they’re educated they’re smart enough to get the frick out
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89954 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:50 am to
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Keep TOPS just the way it is now with this caveat: Those who leave the state within four years of graduation must repay all or a portion of the scholarship amount.


That would be such a bad policy.

Maybe the state should do more to make it more attractive to for those graduates to stay, instead of punishing those that get a degree then leave to start their life. And how many situations would come up where people would possibly have to be excluded from this rule? Who determines if a situation is worth waiving the clause? Seems as if it could potentially be a PR nightmare doing this.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5527 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:00 pm to
Figure out how to reverse the stagnant job market and stop electing those that don't give the slightest shite about the community and maybe folks would stay.

I tried to stay in LA after graduation but the opportunities weren't there.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97719 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:47 pm to
Not enough jobs for everyone

Close some colleges and raise the standards to get TOPS enough to cut the numbers in half
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37141 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
Maybe Louisiana should work on fixing the actual 'why' people leave La for Texas?
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