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re: Are we really talking about a modern European country breaking apart in Civil War?

Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:01 pm to
The Catalans traditionally enjoyed a great degree of autonomy prior to Franco’s crackdown. They’ve generally regained more and more since the democratic restoration with a couple of notable instances of moves for more autonomy being legally reined in. This didn’t come out of nowhere. Highly doubtful they’ll achieve true independence this go-round. They may win some concessions from Madrid, though.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:45 pm to
Lot of bad blood left over from the Civil War...a LOT of bad blood....you could get locked up or worse just for speaking Catalan in Franco's Spain.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20920 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Highly doubtful they’ll achieve true independence this go-round. They may win some concessions from Madrid, though.


The independance movement has the high ground, especially after forcibly keeping people from voting, and its not going to get any better. Majority of people under 40 want a seperation from Madrid, and them watching Madrid beating innocent people to keep them in wont help. Even further if Madrid tries to dissolve the regional parliament it's game on.

Madrid doesnt have many good options. They would have been wise to let the people vote it down on their own.
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