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re: The gay pride flags are brutal
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:00 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:00 pm to SCLibertarian
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Soccer is a political outlet for many clubs. Supporting Rangers is a way for many in Scotland to support Protestant Unionism. Supporting Celtic is a way for many in Scotland to support Catholic Irish Republicanism. If you are a leftist in Rome, you support Roma. If you are a right winger in Rome, you support Lazio. In England, Newcastle fans are historically pro-monarchy, as they supported the Cavaliers in the English Civil War. Sunderland fans are historically parliamentarians, as they supported the Roundheads in the English Civil War.
This is actually more interesting than soccer itself. What else in this vein have you got?
ETA: I'm not trolling. I'm not much of an MLB fan except for it's history and the way it intermingled in the lives of Americans from 1846 until about 1970.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 3:06 pm
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:02 pm to Jake88
Manchester ship canal
It’s why Liverpool is the benfits capital of Britain
It’s why Liverpool is the benfits capital of Britain
Posted on 10/7/17 at 3:26 pm to Jake88
YouTube "The Real Football Factories", they are about hooligans, but goes into a lot of the history of the different areas and differences. The first season is all England, but they have an international one too.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 5:44 pm to Jake88
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This is actually more interesting than soccer itself. What else in this vein have you got?
Well there are all sorts of clubs that have different political alignments. Spain is full of these alignments, some with independence movements, and others with what amounts to royalist movements. Here's a good link about Franco, Real Madrid, and Barcelona. LINK
That clubs everywhere save for the US and Canada are (or were, at least) organic outgrowths of cities (or communities) means that clubs became closely linked with the groups that founded them. Since any group that wanted a sporting club could form one, politics became intertwined and there was no separation of sports and politics. You can have clubs for railway workers, police forces, factory workers, fascist clubs, communist clubs, expatriates and everything in between. That there isn't a franchise system to speak of aids in the mix of politics and sport.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:44 am to Jake88
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This is actually more interesting than soccer itself. What else in this vein have you got?
ETA: I'm not trolling. I'm not much of an MLB fan except for it's history and the way it intermingled in the lives of Americans from 1846 until about 1970.
Ok, well I can offer this: Millwall is traditionally associated with the Docklands area of London or Bermondsey/Isle of Dogs (think Jack the Ripper) and their supporters were dock workers or merchant seaman. Traditionally on the lower rungs of the highly class conscious British society. Millwall, over years of social denigration, being forced to change grounds due to encroaching gentrification developed a massive chip on their shoulders to the extent that to day they are considered the hooligan's hooligans.The man who attacked the Isis terrorists during the London Bridge attack yelled "F%$K you I'm Millwall," the threw himself at them.
Their fiercest rivals (though they rarely play anymore) are the only team close to Millwall on the London social scale, Westham.
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