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It's not about how often it happens, to me at least. I recognize that this isn't an epidemic. It's about whether it is right or wrong.

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Too many people it IS about how often it happens and they are claiming there is an epidemic.

I'm just saying to you as someone who has made plenty of arrests , several thousand in fact, that the best outcome is when NO shots are fired, and no one gets hurt, and 99.9% of cops feel the same way.

Obviously any group, including cops, is going to have a few assholes among them, this is simply a function of assholes, and just like no law would have stopped the a-hole in vegas, no law is likely to decrease the very small number of a-hole cops who just commit murder each year.

And if you look at each case individually and fairly you would have to conclude that cops are not getting away with murder in any great numbers either. I saw a study somehere a few months back that showed that 75% of officer involved shootings are cleared as good shoots without any question about whether the officer acted correctly or not. Then out of the remaining 25% that went to a DA and or to court roughly 90% of those eventually were cleared as no wrongdoing by the officer. I'll see if I can find that study.

But, the fact remains, we're talking about a very small minority of incidents, and so the talk of well, we need to retrain cops or we need to teach people how to react to cops better is just a waste of time. The overwhelming majority of civilians who come into contact with police act appropriately, even the ones who end up being arrested for whatever don't fight with police or what have you, AND the overwhelming majority of police act correctly in all respects as well.

None of the "solutions" offered in this thread will prevent the 2000 or so fatal shootings by police per year out of 8M arrests and tens of thousands of traffic stops made each year.