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There were signs of offensive tampering well before we lost to Troy.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:09 am
First of all, the offense we saw against BYU was not the Matt Canada offense we saw all over Youtube. This was a max-protect version. He may have been shifting people around pre-snap, but he still had a TE and FB on the field at the same time, and they were generally blocking.
After the State loss, O said something in his presser that most people missed. He said we will continue to keep 6-7 guys in protection. Obviously, he is paranoid about the OL not being able to block.
None of that is what Canada is about. He likes to spread defenders out, and it has generally worked everywhere he has been. It simplifies things for the line and creates running lanes for the back. 8 man fronts aren't just scary to quarterbacks. Imagine you're a freshman OG and you line up and have 3 guys in your lane, and they're moving around, and you have to decide which one to block. A young guy will get it wrong more times than not. But if you spread the field and reduce the number of guys this freshman has to block, it makes it easier for him.
I think (and this is my opinion) that this is the main source of tension between O and Canada.
After the State loss, O said something in his presser that most people missed. He said we will continue to keep 6-7 guys in protection. Obviously, he is paranoid about the OL not being able to block.
None of that is what Canada is about. He likes to spread defenders out, and it has generally worked everywhere he has been. It simplifies things for the line and creates running lanes for the back. 8 man fronts aren't just scary to quarterbacks. Imagine you're a freshman OG and you line up and have 3 guys in your lane, and they're moving around, and you have to decide which one to block. A young guy will get it wrong more times than not. But if you spread the field and reduce the number of guys this freshman has to block, it makes it easier for him.
I think (and this is my opinion) that this is the main source of tension between O and Canada.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:10 am to Slippy
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After the State loss, O said something in his presser that most people missed. He said we will continue to keep 6-7 guys in protection. Obviously, he is paranoid about the OL not being able to block.
Well, Orgeron has gotten at least one thing right then.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:11 am to Slippy
So it's O team he can put input into his team. You're such a puss. Snowflake your feelings get hurt did they build a bridge get over yourself. Just support the team and stop bitching
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:11 am to Slippy
Can't say that I disagree with any of this
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:13 am to Slippy
I know right. What happened to throwing to the TE and RB that I saw at Pitt and NC State. I find it hard to believe Matt Canada just totally forgot how to coach since his arrival at LSU.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:19 am to Slippy
Canada runs a pro style offense almost every where he goes
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:41 am to Slippy
O was correct OLINE not capable of playing straight up against SEC opponents. RClark also right that the ultra finesse offense is not suited to the talent on hand. It will play itself out in recruiting.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:45 am to Slippy
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Obviously, he is paranoid about the OL not being able to block.
That actually seems like a reasonable fear in retrospect doesnt it?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:07 pm to Slippy
Not defending Orgeron here, but have we not had problems with our receivers running routes since Anthony Jennings was the QB 4 years ago? The only time in the last 3-4 years that I have seen effective receiver play was in the A&M game and since A&M does not have a competent defense that does not say much
Actually this year, I see a little bit better receiver play especially as it applies to deeper routes. The short and intermediate ones are still a problem overall.
Actually this year, I see a little bit better receiver play especially as it applies to deeper routes. The short and intermediate ones are still a problem overall.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:18 pm to Slippy
SFP already posted something along these lines today:
O does not understand why Canada's offense is supposed to work. He is constantly asked by Alleva, the media, et al to explain the struggles of the team. Since he lacks a fundamental understanding of the offense, he can't provide an explanation. So he has Canada limit his offense to the concepts the he (O) understands and is able to explain. Handcuffing Canada's offense is a bad move for many reasons.
O does not understand why Canada's offense is supposed to work. He is constantly asked by Alleva, the media, et al to explain the struggles of the team. Since he lacks a fundamental understanding of the offense, he can't provide an explanation. So he has Canada limit his offense to the concepts the he (O) understands and is able to explain. Handcuffing Canada's offense is a bad move for many reasons.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:28 pm to Slippy
I think the online needs more practice reps to master the zone blocking scheme and the variants imposed by the shifts.
I also think Orgeron, in consultation with Ensminger, has been "proofing and editing" Canada's gameplans, grossly limiting what he can call on gameday.
Again, the finesse of the Pitt offense, which would be so helpful to us right now, requires more practice, especially early on in the season.
This is particularly true if the game plan is working multiple plays off of individual sets. The moving parts must be properly choreographed if they are to mesh. Rehearsal is critical.
Orgeron needs to surrender gameplanning and practice scheduling to his coordinators, particularly on offense. Either that, or just let the season continue down this fkg black hole into which it's being drawn.
Orgeron's choice MUST be to let his guys sink or swim on their merits. Get it done, coach, let it go.
I also think Orgeron, in consultation with Ensminger, has been "proofing and editing" Canada's gameplans, grossly limiting what he can call on gameday.
Again, the finesse of the Pitt offense, which would be so helpful to us right now, requires more practice, especially early on in the season.
This is particularly true if the game plan is working multiple plays off of individual sets. The moving parts must be properly choreographed if they are to mesh. Rehearsal is critical.
Orgeron needs to surrender gameplanning and practice scheduling to his coordinators, particularly on offense. Either that, or just let the season continue down this fkg black hole into which it's being drawn.
Orgeron's choice MUST be to let his guys sink or swim on their merits. Get it done, coach, let it go.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:36 pm to Slippy
Impossible, he learned his lesson on this
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:56 pm to Slippy
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After the State loss, O said something in his presser that most people missed. He said we will continue to keep 6-7 guys in protection. Obviously, he is paranoid about the OL not being able to block.
That is probably Canada's assessment as well. I think it's a bad assumption to think any quality coach would be ok with our ability to protect the passer.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:57 pm to Slippy
I thought that I was the only person to notice that.Canada is used to spreading the ball around to make the defense guess who's getting the ball.But O said that our best player was getting the ball, which explains why Derrius Guice got the ball, like 20 carries in a row.Even though he was winded, and gasping for air.Why did we sign Coach Canada, I'm confused.
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