Trade for Malcom butler still a possibility?

The dude was one of the best corners in the league last year and is only making 3.9 this year which I would say is grossly underpaid. I'm sure he's pissed the patriots have shown him no love after all he's done for them and they made it obvious they aren't keeping him around by dangling him out in trades all offseason. If we could trade a 5th for him I would absolutely do it. I would bet he'd play a lot harder for an organization who actually appreciates his worth.

He's been up and down these two games. It's a small sample size, and there have been enough miscommunications that it may not be totally on him for meh play, but he's certainly not lighting the world on fire right now.

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if he sucks we can let him walk, there's nothing to lose.

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So if we have nothing to lose we give the Pats nothing?

Also the entire league knows we are desperate to win and that everyone's job is on the line for the Saints this year.
That is desperate.

Do not want. He will come with a huge new contract after this season. We need pass rushers to help our young secondary.

Send them Vaccaro straight up for him.

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the time for that was when brees still played here, brees is gone in 16 weeks, deal with that fact and accept it

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Holy dumb

would we even have enough cap space?

Not sure how improving coverage for an additional 0.5 - 2 seconds per play on 1 route with 2-3 easy throws available on every snap elsewhere improves the team enough to warrant the compensation required to make that trade work.

Rankins has not been playing as well as hoped in Fairley's absence, Okafor is playing too many snaps, and we still don't have an alpha male LB that requires the OC to specifically game plan for that individual.

Any pick(s) we give up to even attempt to acquire him would be at minimum a 3rd(dont have a 2nd)for an expiring deal that is pending a massive pay raise on a team that could possibly blow everything up this offseason.

Not to mention it is becoming more and more likely that we will be selecting within the first 10 picks of each round making that trade for Kamara look worse and worse with each loss.

We gave up a 3rd last year plus a highly talented instant impact caliber player this year for a player being used as a gadget in a crowded backfield where not enough touches are being spread around as is.

It's clear he's sandbagging this year. He'll land somewhere next year and go back to being his usual self. Smart move for him is to just stay healthy this year and don't lay out to make any plays. Smart IMO.

And the statement about Brees above is 100% accurate. He's gone next year. His pain points with this team is directly related to the lack of performance of the Offensive Line and the defense; they have been key in our inability to field a contending team and keep Brees safe. So far, looks like the same shite. Are we statistically eliminated? Absolutely not. The only remote chance we have to make the playoffs is if our OL is healthy again and we find some amount of inside pass rush. As long as opposing QBs have a clean pocket we are going to lose games. Our secondary is too inexperienced and undisciplined to be relied upon to cover the field as long as they have had to so far.

One thing I have been glad to see is our run defense. Laterally, our guys are fantastic at covering sideline-sideline. Interior DLine needs help so it's not surprising to see some success against us running up the middle. This is an indicator we have some good athletes at OLB.