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re: Baylor University Survey On Religion: 'Almost No Atheists Voted For Trump'

Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Yes, let me waste my time responding to your tomes by having to walk you through how to formulate a logically valid statement and argument. Particularly when it's about as apparent as could be that your philosophy and methods of argumentation are locked in religious stone.
If I'm participating in a logical fallacy, I'm more than happy to change my method of argumentation even if the core of my position remains intact. If you'd like to point out any fallacies, I'll be happy to listen.

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Nah, I'm good. Believe whatever the frick you want.
I will, thanks. I'd urge you to change your own beliefs, though.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:29 pm to
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I'd urge you to change your own beliefs, though


Right, because if I simply BELIEVE then the all powerful entity will suddenly view my soul as worth saving. Makes sense.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
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If you'd like to point out any fallacies, I'll be happy to listen.



Like I said, this ain't my first rodeo and no you won't be receptive to your bullshite logic being bullshite. It's the way your brain works since you've elevated things like "faith" and "conviction of belief" over things like knowledge, facts, substantiation, rationality, reason, etc. You yourself have clearly and openly expressed and acknowledged this. Atheists are superior to agnostics, you said, because while flatly rejecting your notion of God, at least they've demonstrated your proclaimed virtue of closing your mind to doubt. "Conviction" you called it.

Let's start with this below. You profess all this to be unequivocally true with zero substantiation that would pass any semblance of scientific muster (which of course you attempt to thwart through terms like "special revelation"). You then expect discussion to hinge on this premise. It's pointless to engage someone using this method of discussion.

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God made Adam and Eve with perfect bodies and when they sinned, corruption entered the world. It's why cancer exists, why our eyesight degrades over time, and why we get feeble in old age. It's why some children are born with terrible diseases and short lives, and ultimately why our bodies give out and we all die. 

On judgment day, the dead will be raised and given new, perfect bodies to experience the afterlife, either in Heaven or Hell.


You repeat this kind of thing over, and over, and over in long-winded, babbling, pretentious diatribes. You clearly see no issue with the absurdity of the above being presented as some factual truth.

You make statements like agnostics don't believe because of "intellectual laziness" (direct quote) and that when it comes to the evidence or rational information regarding the existence or non-existence of a God, "the agnostic doesn't want to engage in that discussion and takes the easy way out by saying that there just isn't enough information to know for sure when the topic, itself, is one of faith." This, of course, does not at all support your argument that the agnostic doesn't engage in rational discussion of evidence. In fact, this entire statement is beyond fricking absurd into the realm of laughable.


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Also, who is to say that the agnostic is "taking the easy way out?" Another false premise. I would argue that the easy way out, if any (and I don't use this term because it's quite presumptive and insulting to suggest that someone is being insincere in their beliefs to begin with), would be the one's subscribing to the more pleasant notion of eternal life in paradise. Trust me, agnosticism doesn't offer one great peace of mind that rewards skirting hard truths. Yet another of your absurd and logically invalid suggestions.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:18 pm
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