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And for someone who values proof(might I also add your version of proof) that unsourced definition is pretty weak to prove anything, in particular that I believe anything absent proof.

You need me to provide sources for you on the English language? I certainly hope not. I'll let you walk that one back because I'm nice like that.

Also, "my version" of proof is consistent with the term. Yours is whatever your preacher man tells you weekly.

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So let me ask you this.. do you drive? If so you are placing unfounded faith in all sorts of things...other drivers, the people who made your car, etc...you have no proof that any of these things won't go afoul and kill you...freaking kill you and maybe give you a painful exit in the process...yet you leap out on faith and drive. You're placing your life in a whole mountain of unfounded proof you will get to your destination safely. Man, what a dumbass UNLESS you have faith that the other drivers will stay in their lane and that the brakes will work from your experienced based off the initial faith you expressed to learn how to drive. You have NO proof these other drivers will follow the laws or you won't have mechanical failure but you, from making the choice to drive, have seen enough evidence to believe your life is not in jeopardy every time you hit the road. Now if I was averse to driving and I see these nasty wrecks on TV or hear about them on the radio...what proof could you offer me that it won't happen the moment I started driving? You couldn't offer me any but you still would hop in your car and drive based off your experience and what you know to be the way driving works. You would also think "man until dude starts driving and makes that leap of faith, he will never know what he is missing out on".

This is a stupid analogy. I drive, but I don't do so believing that there's a magical person who built the road and will take care of me if only I believe really hard and mean it like a motherfricker. I don't place faith in anyone when I drive down the street. I accept that I can't control everything, and no mythology is going to protect me. It isn't "placing my life" in someone's hands. It isn't faith that tells me I will probably be OK to head out to dinner. It's reason and probability. Likely, I'll not be killed if I'm not driving like an idiot. That certainly isn't a guarantee, and having "faith" that I won't would be childish and stupid. Like religion.