re: Did O really say he doesn't expect to win championships?

I supported Les for the longest time, really until the Wisconsin loss. But the Orgeron hire I was against from the beginning, it's just an insane move. Then I let myself suckered in by narrative and optimism and just the excitement of college football...only for every worry and concern I had to come flying to fruition during this game. If you read about his Ole Miss tenure, they're almost identical so far. I don't think he's learned anything.

If we had hire any sort of up and comer, or someone who had their own offensive style or whatever they wanted to implement I would be all for waiting. But that isn't the case. This is a man who failure has followed anytime he has risen above position coach, and who only got the job through a confluence of events and fan guillibility that would seem unbelievable if you saw them in a move. It is a unique situation where strident concern and a short leash from the fans isn't just warranted, it might save the program.

And you seem very rational my friend and I respect that. However, there are definitely numerous fans who love O purely he's from Louisiana and he's one of them and he says all the right things. And there has already been a shift in expectations that would not occur were it not his unique hold on a certain segment of the fan base. I would love nothing more than to go 11-1, and certainly there is a narrative one can spin about last night where it's injuries and bad luck and a young team on the road against an elite opponent. But that's not the narrative I'm buying. Not when our coach has history has having one of the most infamous disasters of a tenure in college football history.