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Why do people think that passing the football is the key?

Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:10 am
I don't get it. You HAVE to run the ball to establish the passing game. Especially when you don't have an absolute stud at QB. People think that if we start passing the ball all game that we will magically become more successful.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:11 am to
And you HAVE to pass to establish a run game.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
65498 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:15 am to
i dont understand it either. they should be more worried about that big white boy tim tebow clone at qb for moo state.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:18 am to
It's key if you need to score points quickly. There's a half dozen games over the past 6 years or so that it could have helped

It's also kind of important to spread the field
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20928 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:19 am to
It's more about a balanced attack being needed. We haven't had that for a while. We already have, and have had, a good running game for a long time, and it by itself can only get us so far. Have you watched the Bama games of the last 5 years, especially the last 2 with probably the best RB in LSU history? We had great backs that had their worst games of the season because teams like Bama can stop the run. If we don't have a passing game, then beating them is nearly impossible unless our defense can stop them every time.
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:21 am to
Passing the football is key in getting us to the next level. You can't be one dimensional.
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:22 am to
I understand the need to pass, but we cannot just step on to the field and throw the ball and do nothing else. We need a BALANCED attack. Obviously throwing the ball is important when needed.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21063 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:22 am to
Because only teams that beat Bama have a passing game that can force those big LBs and DL men to tire out because they are running so much. Pro set I formation teams do not beat Bama under Nick Saban all that often.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39982 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:22 am to
This is almost as dumb as the clown bitching about us running the ball too much against a mediocre to bad BYU team and an FCS team.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30590 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:26 am to
quote:

You HAVE to run the ball to establish the passing game


Kind of depends on the teams strengths and weaknesses, but for LSU this has been what we are constructed for.
quote:

Especially when you don't have an absolute stud at QB.


I'm not convinced this is correct, but I would agree if you instead said when you have average to mediocre QB play.

quote:

People think that if we start passing the ball all game that we will magically become more successful.





I don't think many people think that and certainly not a reasonable people.

Back to the original question
quote:

Why do people think that passing the football is the key?

people think this because the lack of consistently good (not great, just the good side of average) has been a large part of the reason LSU has not been able to get over the hump in recent years.

Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6530 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:27 am to
Balance and predictability. We've won most of our games by outmuscling opponents but can't do that to everyone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
423363 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:29 am to
you need the pass to set up the run in modern CFB

we have to play bama every year. trying to establish the run first will not work against Bama, and we have to have a passing game to allow a consistent and dangerous rushing attack. smashmouth alone does not work. learn the lesson of 2011

Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:29 am to
Because our inability to be consistently average in the passing game has cost us a shiltoad of games since 2013.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:31 am to
I think people know that we can and must do both with a great mix to keep one or the other most effective.

In a game like we are about to play this week, I would create a short pass game to take the pressure off of the run to start, then work into the run game, knowing how aggressive State will be against the run. I might even start the game with a nice fake to Guice and hit them with a deep out or dig route, right on time.

The point is to keep the other team, hell bent on stopping your run game, from feeling so confident in what you're actually trying to do. Break tendencies so that what they saw on tape is completely different then what they actually get in the game. It's pretty simple if you ask me. You must do both BUT be smart about both as well. GT
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:51 am to
I think I speak for the majority of LSU fans when I say we were just tired of NOT being able to pass the ball versus passing a lot.
Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Why do people think that passing the football is the key?


There is no key. You take what they give...run or pass. Just need to be proficient at both if needed.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16926 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:59 am to
Being able to do both is ideal and at times very necessary. Being deficient in one or the other will cause you problems against good defenses. This shite ain't rocket science people.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:01 am to
Too many are interested in the entertainment value of passing. Been playing too much fantasy football. One sets up the other and you need both, but the ground game opens up the pass. If you can't pass, all the chunks in the world won't win. Carl Otis Trimble couldn't hit a barn when he played. I recall aTm figuring this out, loading the box, jamming the ends and daring us to pass, which we couldn't. We got embarrassed that season. Also, a good ground game controls the clock and keeps the opossing offense off the field. In addition to a running game to set up the passing game, you need a good defense. Defense still wins championships.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15285 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:03 am to
We can run the football and beat most teams but we can't run the ball an entire game and beat the most important team on our schedule which is Alabama. Usually when Bama loses it's because they can't stop the passing game except on rare occasions like against Ohio St. We HAVE to throw the ball in order to beat Alabama. Have to keep them honest so that they can stop stacking the box against us. We don't have to spend the entire game passing the ball but we have to be balanced which we never really have been in the past. Running the ball will win 10 games a year but if we can develop a balanced passing attack we could win 11-12 games during the regular season and make it to the college football playoffs.
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
2413 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:12 am to
Give it up Les
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