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re: Game of Thrones S7 E6 "Beyond The Wall" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS

Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:02 pm to
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FWIW, I agree with those who say the plan was kind of silly


I honestly find the premise hilarious that we have real, live dragons in Westeros but people regularly scoff at the mention of white walkers/wights. Even after they've seen/dealt with the dragons and even more "magical" shite (see: Dany, Ceresi, even Tyrion to a degree, the Maesters, etc.).

It's like they're some of the posters here that freak out about how quickly people travel around Westeros but are all in on dragons, black magic smoke babies, etc.
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:06 pm to
Well to be fair dragon skulls were around and proof that dragons had existed.

There was no such proof of white walkers. Or even giants for that matter. At least that I'm aware of.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:13 pm to
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I honestly find the premise hilarious that we have real, live dragons in Westeros but people regularly scoff at the mention of white walkers/wights.

Well in their world, dragons are real live creature that went extinct not long prior. Where as White Walkers and the Long Night happened several thousand years ago. There's no croncrete proof they ever existed until now.

It's like if a small dinosaur (obviously went extinct millions of years ago but we know they existed) were to be found alive but it wouldn't mean we now believe mermaids exist.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:22 pm to
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It's like they're some of the posters here that freak out about how quickly people travel around Westeros but are all in on dragons, black magic smoke babies, etc.


Most fantasy stories invent a method for time travel and Game of Thrones technically doesn't have that. So it is sort of breaking its own rules - which is a big no no to try and maintain a semblance of reality within a given fantasy world.

For example, if the lord of light suddenly made an appearance within the world in the second to last episode and beat the white walkers - people would call bullshite because even though we have magic and some follow him, there is no device that should allow that to happen and it would seem like lazy / bullshite writing - whereas if Bran found some Greenseer trick and did something very similar it comes off a whole lot better.

That is certainly an extreme example, but just because its fantasy and technically anything is possible doesn't mean that a story / world shouldn't follow its own set of rules. Just my opinion of course.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:48 pm to
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I honestly find the premise hilarious that we have real, live dragons in Westeros but people regularly scoff at the mention of white walkers/wights. Even after they've seen/dealt with the dragons and even more "magical" shite (see: Dany, Ceresi, even Tyrion to a degree, the Maesters, etc.).

At the very least, the Maesters at the Citadel should have investigated. Mormont and hopefully Aemon were trying to raise the alarm. You'd think the citadel would have someone they could have sent to investigate these reports long before now. Kind of like the Rob Lowe character in that show about the apocalypse.
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