re: Is anyone else laughing about this "red line" media creation?

yeah i mean i'll give an example where there is no real "villain': Iran when we negotiated that nuclear deal

now has the Iranian government done fricked up stuff throughout its current regime? sure. we have, too. would i call its leadership "villains"? no, just like how we're not villains, either.

people had issues with the Iran deal because we couldn't trust Iran more than their past behavior and "villain" status

NK/Kim family? clearly villain status