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re: duck season interesting read from up north...
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:25 am to choupiquesushi
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:25 am to choupiquesushi
No till and the new agricultural practices have definitely had an effect here locally in the state and area in general. However I am still very skeptical of all these record numbers of birds that we are supposed to have. Hopefully Larry can drop in and share some knowledge on how they come up with the numbers but I want to say that I large part is based on equation and not actual hands-on research and eyeballing. I know in the state they do actual flyovers and counts but I am talking about the yearly population as a whole.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:32 am to GREENHEAD22
While public hunting lands are busy, there are also tons of now "public" and private land that is not hunted at all. Up north for example the power plants that use water to cool down equipment and have ponds they expel the water into. So those ponds are now safe havens that don't freeze over so they hold birds until the ground freezes or snow is so thick the food is gone.
Golf courses and other state land that is off limits to hunting are sprouting up all over the place, waterfowl aren't stupid. Even private land with people that don't hunt, give birds a long weekend of being shot at and they find out right quick that that little 2 acre pond across the street is not hunted. Next thing you know it holds 1,000 birds that fly over your head at 400 ft and filter in to that spot the rest of the year.
"Back in the day" people would just ask permission (or not) and go hunt those little safe havens the birds found, and the birds would be pushed back around. Now there are safe havens for birds they never have to leave.
Golf courses and other state land that is off limits to hunting are sprouting up all over the place, waterfowl aren't stupid. Even private land with people that don't hunt, give birds a long weekend of being shot at and they find out right quick that that little 2 acre pond across the street is not hunted. Next thing you know it holds 1,000 birds that fly over your head at 400 ft and filter in to that spot the rest of the year.
"Back in the day" people would just ask permission (or not) and go hunt those little safe havens the birds found, and the birds would be pushed back around. Now there are safe havens for birds they never have to leave.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:56 am to GREENHEAD22
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However I am still very skeptical of all these record numbers of birds that we are supposed to have. Hopefully Larry can drop in and share some knowledge on how they come up with the numbers but I want to say that I large part is based on equation and not actual hands-on research and eyeballing.
I think the USF&W still does pond counts and brood surveys with boots on the ground.
I am like you though, skeptical on these record numbers. Especially on the Mallard counts. Where are all these Mallards? Very few even make it into LA anymore and I know AR has fr fewer compared to the numbers of 20 or so years ago and if MI doesn't have them I guess MO is hoarding all the Mallards.
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