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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:27 pm to Madking
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:27 pm to Madking
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but the portion of the fan base you side with is unfairly bashing him like no first year coach has ever been bashed at LSU before.
Les Miles 2005 says hello.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:31 pm to Madking
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No other LSU coach has been bashed this much for games he's won.
You know this statement isn't true. Miles was constantly bashed the entire 11 years he was the head coach. Didn't matter if the games were won or lost, or by how much.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:34 pm to jacquespene8
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Unfortunately for O, his predecessor was fired for merely under-performing with elite talent. O does not have the typical rebuild scenario. He was handed the keys to a Porsche, so he has a very small window.
Generally agree with this however he is racing a few porches and a Ferrari
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:39 pm to Madking
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Again Miles was bashed for losses not wins. And the attacks on Miles came years into his tenure not before it ever started.
None of this is true. Miles got bashed no matter the outcome of some the games he coached. And there were plenty of posters bashing Miles right from day one back in 05.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:46 pm to LSU Groupee
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Not only that, but O showed a real weakness of discipline when he caved in to LF, hurt all week to the point he cant play, suddenly getting well and running in to suit up. He was either hurt and shouldn't play or he was faking how much he was hurt and shouldn't play.
I agree with you on this but I think we got stuck in a bidding war with Texas and I'm glad we got out. That said CEO should be on a short leash. However, if we look good this year then we ride with the Crazy Cajun. I personally hope he does good, he is home grown and likable. Alleva needs to keep an eye out this year just in case thou.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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the amount of shite yoh let slide with O is astounding considering you wanted a very successful lsu coach fired because you didn't like his choice for qb
Yep....They gave CEO for the offense looking so good in alot of games after Miles and didn't give Ensminger any credit. Even though Ensminger was calling the plays.
When shite went south in Florida and Bama game they were quick to bring up Ensminger.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:53 pm to Madking
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I never pre criticized him that way you're saying I have.
This is what you said about Miles in a post to me on 11/21/16.
"I was pissed from the day we hired him" and "I was never a Miles guy after what he did vs. Tennessee in 05"
You not liking Miles is your prerogative, but damn man, own up to the things that you've said in your posts during your time as a member of the rant.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:55 am to earl keese
Not agreeing with the hire isn't criticizing him, I don't agree with the O hire you can look those posts up as well but I'm going to give him a chance just like I did Miles. And criticizing him after the Tenn choke is after a game not before.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:59 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:56 am to Madking
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Not agreeing with the hire isn't criticizing him
Okay. Truth be told, I wasn't ecstatic with the Miles hire at first myself. But after the way he handled the hurricanes and led his team through those tough times, I quickly became a fan of his.
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And criticizing him after the Tenn choke is after a game not before.
His second game as the LSU head coach. Why not give the man a chance? That's what you're getting upset with some of these other posters about, not giving Orgeron a fair chance.
I know losing sucks, but jesus jumped up and down, after dealing with two hurricanes and all the bullshite that the coaching staff and the players had to endure in September of 05, you didn't feel like Miles should be given a break for having to get his team prepared to play a football game while also dealing with the aftermath of those storms?
Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:49 am to earl keese
I criticized Ogeron after both the Alabama and Florida games last season. You're mixing two different things here criticizing a coach when he deserves it isn't the same thing as saying he's definitely going to fail and that he should be fired after 1 season if he loses 2 or more games before he's even coached a game. I was very skeptical after the Tenn game because we blew a 24-3 4th quarter lead and anyone who says that didn't shake their confidence in him is lying. I didn't want him fired until I knew Saban was leaving Miami though. I wasn't calling for Miles head if he didn't win a national title his first year which is equal to what the anti O crowd is doing. What the O haters don't realize is that we are not currently an elite program and we have a cheap slimeball president and an AD who's in over his head in the college football world. Those two are the reason we couldn't land a big fish we had the inside track on Herman but Alleva couldn't keep his mouth shut and we lowballed Fisher because we have a cheap scumbag president. We are lucky O was here or els wedve ended up with Fedora or Whittingham. O does have positives going for him no matter how much the O haters say he doesn't we just have to give it time to see if those positives translate into Ws.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 3:51 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:00 am to Madking
I agree with you overall, as we are on the same page with O. I didn't necessarily want him, but I think the model can and will work well. We have instantly upgraded by keeping aranda, getting rid of bdp, and bringing in Canada. That's not even debatable.
What I don't agree with is the big fish Herman. He upset a couple good teams, but geez, he also turned around and lost to some bottom dwellers. He was the flashy toy, imo. Maybe he will turn out good, but he has never ran a top program in a big boy conference. So he is no sure thing. Of course, the big 12 isn't a big boy conference either.
As for Fisher, I don't get the live. He can't even dominate the acc. He won a NC with a top qb, beating an auburn team that had no business being there, with all there luck...could of and should of been a 3-4 loss team. Jmo
What I don't agree with is the big fish Herman. He upset a couple good teams, but geez, he also turned around and lost to some bottom dwellers. He was the flashy toy, imo. Maybe he will turn out good, but he has never ran a top program in a big boy conference. So he is no sure thing. Of course, the big 12 isn't a big boy conference either.
As for Fisher, I don't get the live. He can't even dominate the acc. He won a NC with a top qb, beating an auburn team that had no business being there, with all there luck...could of and should of been a 3-4 loss team. Jmo
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:16 am to Kedwards1
Yes of course Herman could be fools gold but the turnaround at Houston was impressive. He did lose some games last year but his oldest recruits there were sophomores and he wasn't there long enough for a single cycle to graduate. He hasn't been a head coach in a major conference but he was Meyers OC and knows what it is to coach and prepare vs the big boys in top stage games vs elite teams. He upset Florida State in a bowl game too. And Jimbo has won a national title hes been to multiple playoffs and he's brought FSU back to the elites in college football and he's done it in no time. It's likely Jimbo is back in the playoffs again this season with some ppl picking him to win another natty. For what was available last season those two were at the top of anyone's list.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 4:18 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:23 am to Madking
Herman is far too inconsistent.
You are high on Fisher, I'm not at all. He plays in a joke of a conference and still can't dominate. Don't you think it might be a little easier only having to beat one good team (Clemson) and they just got to that level. Please don't give me Louisville...who else in that conference? Of course they go to playoffs and are a hot pick..with the talent fl st has compared to everyone else in that conference, they should own it. If you remember, there were many that wanted Fisher gone from Lsu. We will just agree to disagree over Fisher. I put him and miles about equal, with Fisher in a far inferior conference.
Edit: another huge factor in what success Fisher has had is not only is the acc weak, but perennial powers Miami and Florida have both been down for the last several years. You put miles and Lsu in the acc over the last 12 years, you don't think Lsu does even better than what they did, which was damn good already.
You are high on Fisher, I'm not at all. He plays in a joke of a conference and still can't dominate. Don't you think it might be a little easier only having to beat one good team (Clemson) and they just got to that level. Please don't give me Louisville...who else in that conference? Of course they go to playoffs and are a hot pick..with the talent fl st has compared to everyone else in that conference, they should own it. If you remember, there were many that wanted Fisher gone from Lsu. We will just agree to disagree over Fisher. I put him and miles about equal, with Fisher in a far inferior conference.
Edit: another huge factor in what success Fisher has had is not only is the acc weak, but perennial powers Miami and Florida have both been down for the last several years. You put miles and Lsu in the acc over the last 12 years, you don't think Lsu does even better than what they did, which was damn good already.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 5:30 am
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:26 am to Kedwards1
Well the ACC has won 2 of the last 4 national titles so they can't be that weak. And if we are going to judge other conferences that way then none if them are any good. Coaches have to come from somewhere.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I read this as," I'm usually not absolutely, 100% correct like RickDad is but....".
You really are a narcissistic frick who is completely obsessed with Miles. Just embrace it and quit denying. It doesnt make you a bad person you know. You have completely worn our this routine of yours out and what makes it worse is....nobody cares anymore. Let them criticize Miles if they want....how could this possibly bother you to this degree??? Its pathetic and ridiculous. You absolutely never miss a thread bashing Miles.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:24 pm to Madking
You have two teams...as I stated. Who else? I get it, you like Fisher. I'm just saying it is a hell of a lot easier to win in the acc than the sec, big 10, or even packets 10. Might be a tossup with big 12
Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:00 pm to Kedwards1
So does winning in the ACC or the AAC less of an accomplishment than not winning in the SEC?
Hard to argue that Fisher and Herman are not that great, when you are supporting O.
Hard to argue that Fisher and Herman are not that great, when you are supporting O.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:07 pm to Kedwards1
Yes I agree it's easier to win in other conferences. And I do think Fisher is a very good coach his resume supports that. Not sure what your first sentence meant about two teams. I'm guessing you meant two good teams in the ACC. Louisville has to be considered a good team they're not as good as the SECs top 3 but they've been a consistent winner under Petrino and Strong for a good while now. There's really no other conference that's as good as the SEC top to bottom but it's not fair to say just because they don't play here means theyre not a good college football program.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:04 am to cra_cra
I like Coach O too But we cut his ability to recruit in half when we lost Coach Miles count our five star recruits !
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:56 am to axd9142a
nothing short of SEC championship, period
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