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re: NYT's David Brooks reaches unprecedented levels of woke in his Op-Ed

Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:47 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:47 am to
i'm gonna take this in a slightly new angle

did David Brooks just turn Alt-Lite?

one of the main arguments of the Alt-Lite (and Right) is that culture matters and certain cultural traits lead to more optimal outcomes

David Brooks just wrote a huge piece that pretty much argues "culture matters" and that certain cultural traits lead to...more optimal outcomes

the only real non-culture argument he made was about zoning, which is a liberal-progressive policy...that he's criticizing. so even that fits (to an extent)
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:54 am to
Now, that's an interesting take. Most of those commenting in this thread know dang well that "culture matters," but now even David Brooks seems to recognize that it is so. I guess the next question is whether Brooks could ever bring himself to say that the norms and mores of the more successful should be aspired to by those from more humble backgrounds? That's what really makes a difference, whether in someone like JD Vance rising from his broken home to Yale Law School or whether it's making the decision that, as a nation, we want an immigration policy that strengthens our core national values.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 12:17 pm to
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did David Brooks just turn Alt-Lite?


Did you just start reading David Brooks? He's been making these arguments about culture for a while. I used some of his op-eds in my argumentation classes back when I taught. The kids were vicious in tearing apart his arguments.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:25 pm to
I simply do not know enough to answer your questions. I am not interested in discussing any product of NYT, CNN, WaPo and the like because I see no useful purpose in so doing.

But I do read and I am interested in your opinions and impressions because I enjoy the food for thought.
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